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Maintenance Interval by time or mileage question

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#1 ·
I own a 2020 Passport Touring edition purchased new, now with 35,200 miles on it. I had the dealership service the vehicle since purchased. My last service was for multiple items at 32,400 miles in November 2023 which included an oil change and filter. I now have an indicator showing I am past due in miles for an oil change of almost 1000 miles. Called the dealer and of course they state bring it in. This seems confusing since it is synthetic oil and I have only driven over 3000.00. The oil levels appear normal. My question is this maintenance reminder by time or mileage is my
question. Any feedback is appreciated.
 
#25 ·
I don't get it about changing oil so often. I just purchased a 2019 Passport EXL model from the Honda dealer this month with 27K miles. I don't plan on changing my oil but once a year. I will do it myself as I have done for the last 25 years. I have always used Mobile 1 since the first oil change with Mobile one filter. I have a 2000 Chevy Suburban with 226,000 that I just gave to my son and I changed the oil once a year. Mobile one is designed to last 15,000 - 20,000 miles depending on what you buy. I had Zero issues with my suburban engine.
Also, I just sold my 2002 Chey Avalanche truck with 202,000 miles and Zero engine issues, also used Mobile One oil with the Mobile One oil filter. It is a waste of resources and money to change a synthetic oil so often. It is designed to last and doesn't get the viscosity break down that regular oil gets from heat.
 
#4 ·
And yet there are multiple examples of Honda's whose owners logged over 1 million miles on their Honda and only followed the MM for their service.

What justification is there for the 3k-5k idea? After all I am old enough to remember when oil change intervals were 1500 to 2K miles, There was no such thing as a 3k-5k crap.
 
#5 ·
And yet there are multiple examples of Honda's whose owners logged over 1 million miles on their Honda and only followed the MM for their service.

What justification is there for the 3k-5k idea? After all I am old enough to remember when oil change intervals were 1500 to 2K miles, There was no such thing as a 3k-5k crap.
You sir, are clearly someone who isn't a tech. Like the post said, what is everyone's idea. There isn't many car's out there @ 1 million miles like you stated. If you car reach 1 million miles the company will give you a free car. There fore your just saying stuff out of your ass.
 
#11 ·
Well one way to settle it is to send these guys a oil sample and see if based on your mileage/use it actually needs to be changed or can go longer. I believe they do this for I.C. vehicles and equipment that costs much more initially and to service than passenger vehicles.
 
#12 ·
I own a 2020 Passport Touring edition purchased new, now with 35,200 miles on it. I had the dealership service the vehicle since purchased. My last service was for multiple items at 32,400 miles in November 2023 which included an oil change and filter. I now have an indicator showing I am past due in miles for an oil change of almost 1000 miles. Called the dealer and of course they state bring it in. This seems confusing since it is synthetic oil and I have only driven over 3000.00. The oil levels appear normal. My question is this maintenance reminder by time or mileage is my
question. Any feedback is appreciated.
We also own a 2020 Touring AWD, but it's not our primary vehicle so our total mileage driven is significantly lower than most.
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Above MM just popped up a week ago, and this will now be the FIFTH oil/filter change since purchased new in Feb. 2020. ALL 5 of these oil changes were a direct result of Honda's Maintenance Minder system . . . . in our case obviously MM determined services required were based on time, # of trips, trip duration . . . . but not strictly mileage.

We track all of our vehicles pretty well, and as you can see from the last couple pages of our Passport's book, MM seems to recommend oil/filter service about once a year, regardless of mileage. So far, it's popped at odo 3007 (10/6/20), 5627 (10/6/21), 7800 (8/26/22), 10340 (7/1/23), 14895 (5/26/24).
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So 3000-5000 mile oil changes do exist, per Honda's Maintenance Minder. :cool:
 
#24 ·
If you need to reset oil minder , do the following


Step 1:
Turn the ignition to run (one click before starting the engine).Step 2:
Press the Select/Reset button located on either your steering wheel or as a knob on your dash. Depending on your model, either scroll through or press the knob repeatedly until “Engine Oil Life” or “Engine Oil Indicator %” is displayed.Step 3:
Press and hold the Select/Reset button for 10 seconds. The Engine Oil Indicator will begin to blink.Step 4:
If your display reads “Engine Oil Life”, select the Reset mode by pressing the Info button on the steering wheel. Then press the Select/Reset button to return your oil life to 100%.
 
#29 · (Edited)
Something to consider on this silly "if you don't agree with me... you are just simply wrong!" argument:
Newer cars (past 10-15 years) are now using engine oil not only as a lubricant, but also as hydraulic fluid to control such things as variable valve timing and timing advancement systems and the cooling processors on the nuclear reactors and flux capacitors and stuff. But seriously.... the oil passages to the timing advancement gears on the cams are very itty-bitty and can clog up with sludge easily. It is not like Grandpa's old 1973 "deuce and a quarter" that all that you had to worry about was slippery oil. The lubricating properties of modern synthetic oils do, in fact, allow increased change mileage. However, the additive packages, even tho much improved, still tend to have issues with fighting sludge. And it can/will build if left in use too long. Once these tiny oil control passages get sludged and clogged up, the big head-achs and wallet drainage begins. My point is high mileage oil may stay nice and slippery, but it can still sludge things up if left too long. There is a ton of evidence and videos to support this.

Simply put, if you get a warm-fuzzy from changing the oil after every "trip to the grocery store" as Chef joked.... than do it. That is still better than going 20K miles on ANY oil and suffering the cost and waste of a perfectly good engine. The truth (as always) is somewhere in the middle. We all have our opinions and suggestions.... and fortunately, we don't have to pay for each of our fellow forum member's mistakes. May we all have the longevity results we wish for.

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