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Perpetual payments.
Bought Type R for MSRP sold it for more than I bought it for after 50k miles. Bought Passport at a discount. Sold it for what I bought it for minus like $3k. Bought 4Runner for a $6k discount TRD Off Road Premium. It’s paid off. Used the difference from the original transaction for some bitcoin. Perpetual wins.
 
Passports should be added soon I believe… my 2021 PP had same low rpm knock on warm engine. Acura dealer where I bought it turned me away twice saying it was “normal high pressure fuel tank noise” or that they couldn’t replicate it. I didn’t agree. My Hyundai had premature engine knock, I know engine knock. Took it to another Honda dealership up the street and they diagnosed crank bearing knock. They said there was a bulletin about it for passports.
 
Passports should be added soon I believe…
It's looking more like that now but Honda is known for foot dragging on issues like these. If a large portion of owners are not reporting a particular problem the ones reporting typically get told that they are imagining things....then BOOM! Recall announced for everyone. If you track some of the major problems reported on this forum from 2019 you will see the evolution of some recalls from "Dealer says we can't replicate it" to "We got a recall letter." Sadly, that evolution may take several years.
 
It's looking more like that now but Honda is known for foot dragging on issues like these. If a large portion of owners are not reporting a particular problem the ones reporting typically get told that they are imagining things....then BOOM! Recall announced for everyone. If you track some of the major problems reported on this forum from 2019 you will see the evolution of some recalls from "Dealer says we can't replicate it" to "We got a recall letter." Sadly, that evolution may take several years.
Lots of dollars involved in recalls so lots of incentive to "delay, deny, and hope you die". Rather than step up and make it right. Every day they don't spend that money is another days interest earned on it. It's not confined to Honda or even the auto industry.
 
2019 passport. Reported the infotainment issue. Service Mgr. said to disconnect battery for reset. Later the operation gauges screen went crazy. Videoed the screen actions. They were perplexed when they saw this as they said. Honda was aware yet it seems dealers were unaware. Honda did define the fix within 3 months our problem in particular. Sad that manufacturers are silent until it gets too big to hide. Even sadder is when a manufacturers deens defect a "characteristic" of the vehicle. I had that one with Toyota.
 
2020 PP EXL. I'm one of those lucky ones with the light load knocking. Dealership doesn't "hear" it. This will be the last Honda I buy as I've had no luck with the Honda Myth of Longevity. 2008 Civic engine blew out at 96000 miles, 4000 under the Honda provided Extended Engine Warranty and cost me nothing. I traded it for a 2018 CRV. A year later I get another extended engine warranty from Honda. Immediately traded for the PP. Now this. I almost wish the engine would blow and I'd have it towed to the recycle yard and start over, almost Anything But Honda. If that happened, I'd be able to get rid of the rock-hard seats. ABH.
Take a good video of the sound. File a complaint case with Honda and send to them. Get another opinion from Honda repair shop. I was sent away twice being told it was normal or couldn’t replicate. Finally correctly diagnosed and its crank bearing knock. Don’t let it go.
 
2019 passport. Reported the infotainment issue. Service Mgr. said to disconnect battery for reset. Later the operation gauges screen went crazy. Videoed the screen actions. They were perplexed when they saw this as they said. Honda was aware yet it seems dealers were unaware. Honda did define the fix within 3 months our problem in particular. Sad that manufacturers are silent until it gets too big to hide. Even sadder is when a manufacturers deens defect a "characteristic" of the vehicle. I had that one with Toyota.
Yea, my friend had their brand new '23 Odyssey Touring infotainment system go bonkers on a trip, shortly after they bought it. Said it lit up like a Christmas tree. Vehicle totally shut off as they were getting off the highway, rolled to a stop.

This is no excuse by any means... However, something tells me this happens to due using all the functions at once, thus overwhelming the system. Lane assist, Collison mitigation, cruise control, Apple play, rear USB ports being all used with Gameboys, tablets, etc..

Surely, this should not occur as they test it like this. As a techie, I know something is off. Firmware? Processor? System boards? You figure they have techs more than qualified to design something so this would not occur.

This goes for all automakers. This is 2025. Get with the program people.
 
Was this engine knock issue resolved with the current model year?
I have a 2018 CRV with the 1.5T engine that has the known oil dilution issue (the "oil" moves up the dipstick between changes) and now that engine model is experiencing headgasket failures around 100K miles. I am considering trading for a passport or pilot because I thought those V6s were solid (we still have a 2014 Ody with 130K and climbing). But this issue has me second guessing.
 
Was this engine knock issue resolved with the current model year?
I have a 2018 CRV with the 1.5T engine that has the known oil dilution issue (the "oil" moves up the dipstick between changes) and now that engine model is experiencing headgasket failures around 100K miles. I am considering trading for a passport or pilot because I thought those V6s were solid (we still have a 2014 Ody with 130K and climbing). But this issue has me second guessing.
The new generation Pilot and Passport have a slightly different V6 engine that is not affected by this issue.
 
Here is my experience with a 2025 passport. I test drove one last month and did notice what I thought was a knocking noise at low rpm when driving. I was able to duplicate it on cold start the next day at around 1400 rpm in park. When the engine warmed up, the noise went away. I decided not to purchase the vehicle. Instead I waited for another to arrive at the dealership. This one had no audible noise. I suggest you carefully test the vehicle and listen to engine sounds prior to purchase.
 
Here is my experience with a 2025 passport. I test drove one last month and did notice what I thought was a knocking noise at low rpm when driving. I was able to duplicate it on cold start the next day at around 1400 rpm in park. When the engine warmed up, the noise went away. I decided not to purchase the vehicle. Instead I waited for another to arrive at the dealership. This one had no audible noise. I suggest you carefully test the vehicle and listen to engine sounds prior to purchase.
But your experience makes me wonder if they really addressed the issue or are just hoping it doesn't happen enough to impact them financially. After my experience with their 1.5T in my 2018 CRV - I'm struggling (but still want) to remain brand loyal.
 
I have a 2022 Honda Odyssey...just had the van dropped off at the dealer with severe rod knock that came out of nowhere and a dashboard disco party. 68,000 miles with regular fluid changes and Dealership acted like they'd never seen it before. I am seriously worried at this point. What gives?
 
I have a 2022 Honda Odyssey...just had the van dropped off at the dealer with severe rod knock that came out of nowhere and a dashboard disco party. 68,000 miles with regular fluid changes and Dealership acted like they'd never seen it before. I am seriously worried at this point. What gives?
Looks like you took a wrong turn. This is the Passport forum.

 
Looks like you took a wrong turn. This is the Passport forum.

Sometimes folks get a little side-tracked...not me, of course...😄 But the Passport, Pilot, and Odyssey share pretty much everything but the body shapes, at least from my perspective, like electronics, powertrain, etc. with maybe a few minor differences. I think when people compare a Ridgeline, for example, to a F-series Ford, that kinda opens a pretty large door that is very hard not to go through!😉😆
 
The saga continues. This is a good refresher. IMO, Honda knows more. Come on, this goes back 5 years or so. Now as it turns out, there have been failures outside the original recall range. The thinking is there is another cause of these engine issues, hence the new probe.

Does anyone have a technical reason why these investigations never mentions any model year of the 3rd generation Passport considering the identical engines involved?
 
Does anyone have a technical reason why these investigations never mentions any model year of the 3rd generation Passport considering the identical engines involved?
Lots of posts on the Pilot forum, 2016-2022 section, about engine issues unfortunately.
 
Possibly because while the are in the same J family of Honda engines they are not exactly identical.

The investigation lists 2016-2020 Pilot, 2017-2019 Ridgeline and 2018-2020 Odyssey as affected by the engine issues but no 3rd gen Passport.

Yet...

The part number for the 2019-2024 Passport's cylinder block is 11000-5G0-A11 - Same part number for 2016-2022 Pilot, 2017-2024 Ridgeline, 2018-2020 Odyssey.

The part number for the 2019-2024 Passport's cylinder head is 12100-R9P-305 - Same part number for 2016-2022 Pilot, 2017-2024 Ridgeline, 2018-2024 Odyssey.

Specific components made be manufactured at different times but I know if the part numbers are identical, then the parts are identical too.
 
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