[TBong]

You can probably get an excellent deal on a 25.

https://www.passportforums.com/posts/110615/

Yeah no that's not going to happen.

 

[TBong]

Only if you are comparing purchases in states with similar sales tax. Here in Washington, with its 10% sales tax, vehicles cost 10% more than in Oregon with no sales tax. And no, you can't just buy your car in Oregon if you live in Washington - DMV is all over that one....

And here in South Carolina it's capped at $500. If it rolls, floats or flies.

 

[TBong]

You can probably get an excellent deal on a 25.

https://www.passportforums.com/posts/110615/

Nope Old news.... I don't like that body style at all that. I'd rather keep my 25 pilot.

 

[TBong]

Well said. I buy all of my vehicles coming off a lease and certified by the manufacturer.
Why?
Certified vehicles have a 100,000 mile powertrain guarantee. Dealers typicall sweeten the guarantees as well. Extending by 12000 miles etc.
Most vehicles that have been leased are in mint to near mint condition.
The vehicle will have a car fact report or similar so that you can see service history and any accidents.
The dealer puts the vehicle through a thorough inspection and provides the paper trail for your review.
These vehicles are low mileage so you are buying a vehicle that is barely broken in.
You save 30% or more off MSRP.
Unless you are in desperate need of another vehicle, having to wait to buy a newer model allows one to really review the car/truck to make sure that it is the car/truck you really need. The 2026 Passport is on my list of vehicles to consider when they start coming back from leases. Through the information shared on this forum, I will be making an informed decision, not one based on marketing hype. I expect to see the 2026's coming back in 2027/2028. Until then I will enjoy my 2021.

I don't know if anybody who has a lease vehicle that uses top tier gas. Or goes crazy over the maintenance or changes oil at 5,000 miles. Because they don't have to worry about long-term reliability, they don't...... It's basically a glorified rental.

 

[TBong]

Or that means they have the money and can buy what they want when they want it. No need to sit around for months waiting for a phone call with a price that finally fits in their budget.

Yeah I know that's what people do just before they get into financial trouble.... That's also why repossessions are at a record high. 84-month car loans, 72 month car loans. People are nuts.

 

[A440]

BINGO...... You'll retire comfortably

Retired at age 55. Now everyday is Saturday.
Goodbye tension, hello pension.

 

[TBong]

Retired at age 55. Now everyday is Saturday.
Goodbye tension, hello pension.

Same..... Nice to get up every day and not have to be able to get it to do anything for anybody you own every minute to do with what you please.. Well worth the life of sacrifice... I had friends say "do it now!! you never know you could die tomorrow!" I never did.... and they're up to their neck and debt because they didn't die.

 

[pprknight]

Only if you are comparing purchases in states with similar sales tax. Here in Washington, with its 10% sales tax, vehicles cost 10% more than in Oregon with no sales tax. And no, you can't just buy your car in Oregon if you live in Washington - DMV is all over that one....

I agree. To compare the deals from state to state, even county to county within state, you need to consider the state and county taxes and title registrantion and plate fees. Include the dealer fees that they charge (seemed to always be the PA state max to me). I got my dealer to knock off $277 off his fee only by actually reducing the car price but not his fee!!!. Also the add-ons like nitrogen in your tires should be inluded as they can be incredibly over priced and errode any actual discount on the car price. Factory sticker price inclusion for the msrp, not sure about the factory delivery charge - does that vary from state to state?

 

[GLB]

I don't know if anybody who has a lease vehicle that uses top tier gas. Or goes crazy over the maintenance or changes oil at 5,000 miles. Because they don't have to worry about long-term reliability, they don't...... It's basically a glorified rental.

The people I know personally who rent ( lease ) drive them like they stole them. Absolutely NO rent returns 4 me.

 

[TBong]

The people I know personally who rent ( lease ) drive them like they stole them. Absolutely NO rent returns 4 me.

Why not? Kind of like the human body. Mess up and do crazy things while young and then when old, it gets paid for .Same with maintenance on a car when it's new...... in the first 3 years easy!! major problems won't appear until much later

 

[archsof]

People go broke when they purchase things outside of their financial means; if going down on the price another $500-$1,000 is critical then you can't afford it. Manufacturers also offer incentives if you're financing that you don't qualify for if you pay cash, money left on the table. Also, dropping $50K cash isn't a smart move because you have cash money tied up in a depreciating asset, the minute you took ownership you lost thousands of dollars. You also could've invested that cash and got a return on your investment, your money could be making money. That return could go towards paying off your loan early reducing interest charges.

Paying cash on an older used car is smart, it's already depreciated so you're not losing money. It's like using credit cards to pay for everything. You pay off the balance monthly so there is no interest charges and use the points to reduce travel expenses or get cash back. There is nothing wrong with using credit, use it correctly and you can come out ahead.

Paying cash on a brand new car isn't the flex you think it is.

Are you a financial advisor? We worked with ours and discussed with our accountant and cash was best for us. In general, you are correct, but everyone is different. Having options is more important and where you may be in life. When younger and in our 20’s, we planned well to pay off the loan in less than 2 years. It does matter and if you aren’t comfortable with a depreciating asset then consider leasing. You never get ahead of the depreciation if you keep your vehicle beyond 5 years or just buy a used car.

Oh, lots of unknowns on the impact of tariffs as parts are not nearly all US made. The WSJ had an article recently that prices for new autos are expected to rise by 8.1% on average in the next year even if rates go down. True or not, waiting for history to repeat itself can be a gamble. We’re thrilled with our purchase had a decent deal. You want a great deal buy a car nobody wants or is over produced. Honda and Toyota keep a tight inventory for the most part. I hope it works out for you IF YOU EVER BUY.

 

[TBong]

I agree. To compare the deals from state to state, even county to county within state, you need to consider the state and county taxes and title registrantion and plate fees. Include the dealer fees that they charge (seemed to always be the PA state max to me). I got my dealer to knock off $277 off his fee only by actually reducing the car price but not his fee!!!. Also the add-ons like nitrogen in your tires should be inluded as they can be incredibly over priced and errode any actual discount on the car price. Factory sticker price inclusion for the msrp, not sure about the factory delivery charge - does that vary from state to state?

You also need to consider the cost of living in those States because the employees need to make more.

 

[TBong]

Are you a financial advisor? We worked with ours and discussed with our accountant and cash was best for us. In general, you are correct, but everyone is different. Having options is more important and where you may be in life. When younger and in our 20’s, we planned well to pay off the loan in less than 2 years. It does matter and if you aren’t comfortable with a depreciating asset then consider leasing. You never get ahead of the depreciation if you keep your vehicle beyond 5 years or just buy a used car.

Oh, lots of unknowns on the impact of tariffs as parts are not nearly all US made. The WSJ had an article recently that prices for new autos are expected to rise by 8.1% on average in the next year even if rates go down. True or not, waiting for history to repeat itself can be a gamble. We’re thrilled with our purchase had a decent deal. You want a great deal buy a car nobody wants or is over produced. Honda and Toyota keep a tight inventory for the most part. I hope it works out for you IF YOU EVER BUY.

It always works out for me my friend.... Dave Ramsey school... Patience is the key to everything....

Marriage, Investing and purchasing, especially making large cash decisions.. People aren't buying Vehicles now... I don't think they're going to be raising prices another 10%, I see prices coming down... My Honda dealer doesn't have any room to put more any more vehicles.. Plus I don't really trust the Wall Street Journal. They definitely have an agenda

 

[RumbleStang]

My dealership group had almost 450 new vehicles for sale when I got mine. Went to the 200's now back up to 350.

 

[Scott2373]

2026 Honda Passport TrailSport Elite Blackout AWD
MSRP $55,100
Discount $6184.24
TT&L $584.24
Total Out the Door Price: $49,500
Included wheel locks, tint, and all weather mats as well as a set of carpet Trailsport mats
Purchased August 9th Gillman Honda Fort Bend (price reduction not advertised but always easily negotiable)

After reading through this entire thread, it seems like you got the best deal so far. Well done! Everyone else is getting completely fleeced by dealer added accessories, "protection packages", and INSANE document/admin fees. You obviously did your research. Buying a new vehicle is a game to me. I love the thrill of the hunt. It usually takes me about 2 weeks, on average, to complete a deal, and I always walk away happy.

 

[charissahuie]

I paid 54,300 for OTD, 2026 Passport Trailsport Elite. Green, brown interior.

I walked out of three dealerships here in MD before I got the price I wanted. I don't deal with discounts. I just give them and OTD price (that I've worked out prior to my arrival) and present it at the dealership.

 

[charissahuie]

You should be able to get 4 to $5,000 off of $56,000 MSRP easily. But you have to be able to walk out of the dealership and not many people will do that. They get too deep in the muck and the emotions. I realize that every day that car sits on a lot it's worth less and less and the deal is paying interest on it. Dealership owners need to move metal they don't care if their salesman make a living.

I walked out of three.

 

[Evergreen]

After reading through this entire thread, it seems like you got the best deal so far. Well done! Everyone else is getting completely fleeced by dealer added accessories, "protection packages", and INSANE document/admin fees. You obviously did your research. Buying a new vehicle is a game to me. I love the thrill of the hunt. It usually takes me about 2 weeks, on average, to complete a deal, and I always walk away happy.

I was in my selling dealership no less than four times looking at their 2026 Passports in stock, and I purchased on the 5th visit. During that time, I also visited four other Honda dealers in the greater Houston area, did my homework and tried to make a deal at two of them but walked out as I knew I would leave too much on the table if I accepted the offer.

I ensured I took a pic of the both deal sheets so when I finally decided to negotiate on the one I purchased, I simply showed them the deals thus far, explained what I was offering and showed them my spreadsheet to explain how I arrived at that OTD number, and explained I was ready to buy now.

They countered with $1500 over my offer and I said no, stood up to leave and the salesman told me he needed to let the sales manager know I declined their counter offer. The sales manager came out, shook my hand and thanked me for giving them the opportunity. I walked out, got on my vehicle and then saw my salesman come running out the door to tell me they decided to take my offer.

Research, shop around, shop around some more and try to work a couple of deals, be firm but polite, walk out if you don’t get the deal you can support with facts and reason (not emotion or some belief the dealer is trying to screw you), and never be afraid to walk out as there are plenty of 2026 Passports and dealers waiting to make a deal now or sometime in the near future.

And remember, time is money…investing the time to ensure you get the best deal is never a waste of time.

And yes, I paid cash despite the best efforts of the Finance Manager trying to get me to finance with Honda, and of course his best efforts to get me to purchase a highly inflated extended warranty with as many snake oil products as he could jam into the deal in the back end.

 

[TBong]

I walked out of three dealerships here in MD before I got the price I wanted. I don't deal with discounts. I just give them and OTD price (that I've worked out prior to my arrival) and present it at the dealership.

THATS the way....make a FAIR offer....and walk...

 

[brainardej]

So Our Sonic Grey 2026 Passport RTL with the 8yr/120,000mi warranty was OTD - $ 50,000. I figure that's about $ 4,000 below MSRP... There was no one in the dealership that 100 degree day in Central Cali & they needed the sale.