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Owners manual for my Elite states that cable chains size is SZ435. Tire chain finder at Peerless Chain company says that 265/45-20 tires should use Super Z6 chains in size SZ441 should be used. I have sent emails to both my dealer, Honda customer service and Peerless. Honda says that their TEAM couldn't find cable chains listed for Passport Elite. Lame response. Peerless sizes their chains based on tire size not car model. Sent Honda info from Peerless but got no reply. Again, lame customer support. I want to keep the 265/45-20 tire size for my winter tires. I now have in hand both the SZ441 and SZ435 cable chains and will test fit them when my winter tires are installed. Has anyone installed cable chains on 265/45-20 winter tires? Love my new Passport and looking forward to my witner ski trip to Colorado and Vermont.
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I think that SZ435 sizing is a carry over from Pilot/Ridgeline for 245/60-18? Honda did not update the information for the Passport.
Thanks. Looks like you hit the nail on the head. Inputting the 245/60-18 tire size into the Peerless Chain finder yields the SZ435 from the Passport Elite owners manual. Looks like the owners manual is incorrect. The SZ441 should be the size for my 265/45-20 tires. Hopefully Honda customer service team will make the correction but I'm not holding my breath. Thanks again for your response. As a side note, I ordered the Honda Nav, Owners and Warranty manuals. Really disappointed with the quality and format of the manuals. Especially the Nav manual. The pictures of the Nav screens are in blank and white and are so small that they are almost unreadable. Luckily the digital versions are much better.
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I have the same question. My 2019 Passport Elite came with these tires: Continental CrossContact M+S 265/45R20 104H. The Passport Owner's Manual specifically mentions tire size 265/45R20, and recommended cable chain: SCC Super Z6 SZ435. But online searches shows no supporting match for chain SZ435 and 265/45-20 tires.
Peerless 'Tire Chain Finder' lists the following chain options for this tire size:
  1. Z-579 Z-Chain
  2. SZ441 Super Z-6
  3. ZT741 Z SUV/LT
  4. 0232105 Auto-Trac
  5. 0232110 Wal-Mart Auto-Trac
  6. S66 - SuperSox
This is confusing. Who do we trust? [Really hoping @DonPat is watching and can reply with test fit results...]
Based on everything I've read thus far, correct size should be the SZ441.
At the time of this post, both Amazon and Walmart are selling a set (of 2) for $93.89 with free shipping:
I've previously put on Super Z6 chains on my old X5 before in a blizzard on the side of the road, not fun but it got the job done. Soaking wet and frozen hands make it very difficult along with other cars slipping and sliding around you trying to get to the road shoulder. Was looking for an easier to install set of chains for my Passport Elite such as the Thule/Konig XB-12 265 or Konig Easy Fit. I'm located in the SF Bay Area and only go up to Lake Tahoe a couple of times a year so dedicated snow tires for 2-4 days a year didn't seem economical.

Was curious of the clearing space between the interior sidewall of the tires and the strut assembly so took out a tape measure and man... it's about 10mm or so of clearance. Lots of room to the sidewalls but I don't want to damage the brakes or suspension. Very very low clearance so the Class S snow chains are a must. The XB-12 requires 12mm and EasyFit 10mm and are 3x more expensive than the Super Z6 SZ441. I guess I'll have to purchase the SZ441's since it only needs 6mm of clearance and pray I won't need to use them for a long time. Been following the threads about handling in snow with the OEM stock tires, going to see myself soon I guess. Hope "snow mode" will do well enough.
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I've previously put on Super Z6 chains on my old X5 before in a blizzard on the side of the road, not fun but it got the job done. Soaking wet and frozen hands make it very difficult along with other cars slipping and sliding around you trying to get to the road shoulder. Was looking for an easier to install set of chains for my Passport Elite such as the Thule/Konig XB-12 265 or Konig Easy Fit. I'm located in the SF Bay Area and only go up to Lake Tahoe a couple of times a year so dedicated snow tires for 2-4 days a year didn't seem economical.

Was curious of the clearing space between the interior sidewall of the tires and the strut assembly so took out a tape measure and man... it's about 10mm or so of clearance. Lots of room to the sidewalls but I don't want to damage the brakes or suspension. Very very low clearance so the Class S snow chains are a must. The XB-12 requires 12mm and EasyFit 10mm and are 3x more expensive than the Super Z6 SZ441. I guess I'll have to purchase the SZ441's since it only needs 6mm of clearance and pray I won't need to use them for a long time. Been following the threads about handling in snow with the OEM stock tires, going to see myself soon I guess. Hope "snow mode" will do well enough.
Same boat here, live in the bay and go to Tahoe regularly. Doesn’t make sense to get a set of snow tires so I got the Super Z6 SZ435’s. Not sure I’ll ever use them, but like to have them just in case, plus it’s mandatory to carry them. I had chains for my awd Mazda CX-7 and managed some serious blizzards... and never once used the chains. Hoping for the same with the passport!
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I put on the super z6 sz441’s and took some pictures to show you guys the clearance. Plenty of room from the brakes and lines but a gap a little larger than my finger of clearance between the strut assembly and the back metal cable joint. Haven’t gone down the road to tighten for fit yet. Seemed droopy but it was on a small incline.

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I wish I could see this in person. From the looks of the photos that isn't much clearance. It also appears there's a possibility of damage to the edge of the rim on the outside.
I must admit ... this past Oct. we passed thru the snowy areas surrounding Old Faithful (FWD Odyssey), where I observed several signs warning of chain requirements,
Being from the south (and southernly ignorate) I didn't have them. With luck we managed,
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[QUOTE="Wrascal, post: 33304,

(and southernly ignorate)
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Haha, funny stuff. I've read some of your posts. You seem plenty smart to me.
Hi all, went online today to look for snow chains as I moved from the beach to the mountains and want to be prepared. I looked on Amazon and Google, found many options. Wanted to see if anyone on here has a recommendation that has worked well for them on a Passport (AWD).

I realize that I might not need them with the proper tires...etc....but better safe than sorry.
Hi all, went online today to look for snow chains as I moved from the beach to the mountains and want to be prepared. I looked on Amazon and Google, found many options. Wanted to see if anyone on here has a recommendation that has worked well for them on a Passport (AWD).

I realize that I might not need them with the proper tires...etc....but better safe than sorry.
COBeachGuy.......where did you move to? COBeachGuy , sound like you're in Colorado now.
Have you used snow chains in the past? Pain in the butt to put on and take off. Will loosen every nut, bolt, screw and dental filling in your head due to the harsh jarring ride on thin patches of snow. If not installed and tightened properly will come loose and cause big time damage to your vehicle. If you are in Colorado, studded snow tires are legal and are fantastic on AWD and even give improved stopping ability.

Curious if anyone has tried these? I have been reading about them for years.🤔
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COBeachGuy.......where did you move to? COBeachGuy , sound like you're in Colorado now.
Have you used snow chains in the past? Pain in the butt to put on and take off. Will loosen every nut, bolt, screw and dental filling in your head due to the harsh jarring ride on thin patches of snow. If not installed and tightened properly will come loose and cause big time damage to your vehicle. If you are in Colorado, studded snow tires are legal and are fantastic on AWD and even give improved stopping ability.
Haha, CO is correct.
Thank you, you raise great points and the benefit doesnt beat the headache. Studded snow tires....going to research these and consider.
Any suggestions on tire brands?

Curious if anyone has tried these? I have been reading about them for years.🤔
Never used them, but first thought is how snow builds up in the wheel well...I think the built up snow, friction, and wheel rotation could tear it right off. I am probably over thinking it.
I'm figuring I need to get some snow cables and carry them here for winter in case I go to the mountians.

From this thread Winter tire cable chains there is pretty tight clearance for even cable snow 'chains'. Not sure if it is better or worse since I moved to 18" tires and wider wheels, I'll have to look.

Anyone else got snow cables for their non-stock tires? If so where did you get, what fit?
I have 18" Wheels with Nitto Terra Grappler's in 255/60 R18 112S (rating) M+S

In California we need to at least carry chains in snowy areas and it is often required (needed or not for a 4wd).
I'm thinking these should work and I want to stay away from chains, use cables only.


Are they best put on front (steering) or back (a bit better traction)? Long time since I've had to have chains on a 4wd/awd.

Curious if anyone has tried these? I have been reading about them for years.🤔
Seem feasible but never saw them in real life (not that I've seen a lot of chains on). I can see limitations but so easy to use and quiet by comparison.
Seem feasible but never saw them in real life (not that I've seen a lot of chains on). I can see limitations but so easy to use and quiet by comparison.
I know I'm replying to an old post but this is what I bought (and still have never used) for our 2020 Honda Passport Elite AWD with OEM 265/40R20 tires...

Security Chain Company SZ435 Super Z6 Cable Tire Chain for Passenger Cars, Pickups, and SUVs

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