[stevenD]

I hope to sweep the response before and after but what really counts of course is if I like the sound. Since these are coaxial with a tweeter I will probably also replace one of the originals with a load resistor and sweep the amplifier to see if it is full range or were it rolls off.

I have no idea of how this will sound, I made a detailed post in the Audio and Stereo Forum titled: "The Elite/Touring Stereo Upgrade Thread". Never owned any Polk speakers, but my understanding is that they do make some nice ones (depending on the price-point). You may want to take a look at my recommendations made in that thread...

The problem with your new speakers are the Tweeters. I was originally considering coaxials until I spoke with a Crutchfield guy and my car installation guy. Also another member here tried some Infinity Coaxials in both doors and was not happy with the overall sound (you can search for that thread).

If you install Coaxial speakers you will be adding 4 additional tweeters to your system, these 8 tweeters will not sound right as they are different manufactureres, different specs and different sound levels. If you disconnect the existing 4 tweeters, you will be left with no highs directly hitting you and the highs will be muffled and buried down in the doors. Tweeters are VERY "directional" and Honda went through a great deal of effort/testing (with speaker placement) to create the proper sound-field in the PP. Coaxials will COMPLETELY defeat (ruin) it and it the new set-ups will sound WORSE!

I said this in the post I referred to above, but I'll repeat it here: The PP Elite/Touring Stereo system needs Component Speakers (separate woofers and tweeters)!

PS: Maybe the Polk DB6502?

Regardless of whatever you end up doing, please report back here and pictures are very welcome...!

Best Wishes

 

[jwrtiger]

I have no idea of how this will sound, I made a detailed post in the Audio and Stereo Forum titled: "The Elite/Touring Stereo Upgrade Thread". Never owned any Polk speakers, but my understanding is that they do make some nice ones (depending on the price-point). You may want to take a look at my recommendations made in that thread...

The problem with your new speakers are the Tweeters. I was originally considering coaxials until I spoke with a Crutchfield guy and my car installation guy. Also another member here tried some Infinity Coaxials in both doors and was not happy with the overall sound (you can search for that thread).

If you install Coaxial speakers you will be adding 4 additional tweeters to your system, these 8 tweeters will not sound right as they are different manufactureres, different specs and different sound levels. If you disconnect the existing 4 tweeters, you will be left with no highs directly hitting you and the highs will be muffled and buried down in the doors. Tweeters are VERY "directional" and Honda went through a great deal of effort/testing (with speaker placement) to create the proper sound-field in the PP. Coaxials will COMPLETELY defeat (ruin) it and it the new set-ups will sound WORSE!

I said this in the post I referred to above, but I'll repeat it here: The PP Elite/Touring Stereo system needs Component Speakers (separate woofers and tweeters)!

PS: Maybe the Polk DB6502?

Regardless of whatever you end up doing, please report back here and pictures are very welcome...!

Best Wishes

Thanks Steven for the information. I will check out your posts. Yeah I am a fan of Polk speakers and bang for the buck they do a nice job and most are natural sounding to my ears. The speakers have a passive crossover network composed of what appears to be two NP capacitors and two inductors. I will figure out the schematic for them plus their values. I am also capable of winding my own coils if I want to effect the crossover and roll off. One nice feature is that the crossover network and both speakers are brought out to the speaker terminal block and it is very easy to disable the tweeter and I can easily make sure the impedance to the amplifier stays the same. Why not just use a single speaker instead of the coaxials?... because I already own them . Good point about the sound stage and the directionality of the tweeter. In these speakers the orientation of the tweeter is fix and not adjustable. If I do this mod I will be happy to post my measurements and installation. Only problem is I hate opening up the door panels having only owned it for a few days.

 

[stevenD]

You planning on adding Dynamat behind the door speakers?

 

[jwrtiger]

You planning on adding Dynamat behind the door speakers?

I have a little Dynamat but I will be using 80 mil Noico. I also have some butyl sealant tape which I like to add to the speaker mount and the speaker basket.

 

[stevenD]

I added another note to my Stereo Upgrade thread...

 

[storm303]

@ StevenD and anyone interested: I just wanted to clarify as I may not have been perfectly clear in my other post - I am the one who added 4 Infinity speakers and I actually AM quite happy with them; they produce similar bass to the stock and are much cleaner and better sound stage. I was a bit put off with the rear doors because for whatever reason they are given very little power compared to the front, and balancing rear cannot totally fix it. I got used to the extra treble low in the rear door, but the front actually needed a better treble soundstage and the coax did nicely for that. Overall quite an improvement from stock.

What I was not happy about at all was the aftermarket 8" subwoofers I tried (Pioneer, Skar Audio, gave up before Kicker). The stock is the best of three I have tried for that enclosure and amp and play quite deep and clean for being stock. So, I am adding my old Rockford 12" in a removable box here eventually.

See the other thread Steven mentioned, we have some chat about sound deadening and disable active noise cancelling. Makes a great difference, much more than replacing speakers will.

 

[stevenD]

Thanks for the update Storm, I'm glad you are happy with the coaxials.

I guess I need to go listen to my fronts and backs separately, to comment on any percieved differences and will report back when I have something!

What are you thoughts/experience about the overlap of having 8 tweeters?

Please direct any future updates to that Stereo Upgrade Thread in the Audio/Stereo Forum, as it will make it easier to find going forward, in fact if I could figure out how to move threads, I'd move this one there...

Cheers!

 

[Byrdman]

Has anyone upgraded the speakers in the Elite, including the subwoofer to a known brand (Polk, Bose, etc.) Is an amplifier needed or does the head unit have enough juice?

Try this thread...
The Elite/Touring Stereo Upgrade Thread

 

[KYBubblehead]

I also have an Elite and upgraded the front speakers.

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I did also add some sound deadening; Crutchfield is great to deal with.

I agree that the sub is MORE than adequate - previously I had an '18 Civic Touring Sport that required a mono amp and sub replacement. The Elite is good to go as it is. YRMV.