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There have been several threads asking about towing. Here is a short review.

Today is a nice day on the Eastern Slopes of the Cascade Mountains; slight winds, 68 degrees F, 5000 feet above sea level. Tow weight: 290 lbs of drift boat, 450 lbs of trailer, one fish'en pole, can of night crawlers for a total tow weight of less than 1000 lbs.

Dealer installed hitch, ATF cooler, & wiring harness; can't blame this part on me! We should be good for 5K lbs.

Pre tow check: Air pressure in trailer tires, ok. Jacked up both wheels and checked bearing clearance, ok. Bearing buddies, ok. Connect harness from trailer to Passport, ok. Running lights, four way flashers, turn signals, stop lights, ok. Lets roll!

This was a trial run for the real deal and to iron out any issues. Total round trip, about 60 miles on mostly level roads with a couple slight uphill grades for good measure.

Takes a half mile run to the main roads and nothing unusual with the Passport; speeds less than 15mph. Once on the blacktop it takes more peddle to the metal to get the Passport up to the speed limit, 45mph. Once up to speed the Passport settles into its normal self, tachometer showing about 1600 rpm. The Passport & transmission likes to pick a gear where the engine is running at 1600 rpm, no different towing 1000 lbs with no head wind.

A few miles down the road the speed limit is 55 mph and the Passport is happy. But I do feel the Chevy Blazer with its 4.3 liter engine did not work as hard when increasing speed. Passport has to work harder, but once getting there it settles in. Braking is more than adequate towing 1000 lbs @ 55mph. Handling is smooth and predictable.

Time to turn around and put the Elite's nose into the headwind. Wish I had something to have measured wind speed today. It wasn't much, less than 10 mph. The lodge pole pines were barely moving. Using the Trip Computer mode on the dash told me I wasn't dreaming. Indicated speeds bounced back in forth between 54 mph to 58 mph. Watching the instantaneous gas mileage; a dot above 25 mpg to a dot below 25 mpg. Bet the 9 speed tranmission was "a hunt'en & peck'en" looking for something to keep the computers happy. More effort and concentration is needed to maintain a steady speed towing 1000 lbs with windy conditions. Maybe the S mode would let the driver select a gear and remain at that gear ratio. Will have to give it go next fishing trip.

That's my story and sticking to it.

Stuck,
 

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There have been several threads asking about towing. Here is a short review.

Today is a nice day on the Eastern Slopes of the Cascade Mountains; slight winds, 68 degrees F, 5000 feet above sea level. Tow weight: 290 lbs of drift boat, 450 lbs of trailer, one fish'en pole, can of night crawlers for a total tow weight of less than 1000 lbs.

Dealer installed hitch, ATF cooler, & wiring harness; can't blame this part on me! We should be good for 5K lbs.

Pre tow check: Air pressure in trailer tires, ok. Jacked up both wheels and checked bearing clearance, ok. Bearing buddies, ok. Connect harness from trailer to Passport, ok. Running lights, four way flashers, turn signals, stop lights, ok. Lets roll!

This was a trial run for the real deal and to iron out any issues. Total round trip, about 60 miles on mostly level roads with a couple slight uphill grades for good measure.

Takes a half mile run to the main roads and nothing unusual with the Passport; speeds less than 15mph. Once on the blacktop it takes more peddle to the metal to get the Passport up to the speed limit, 45mph. Once up to speed the Passport settles into its normal self, tachometer showing about 1600 rpm. The Passport & transmission likes to pick a gear where the engine is running at 1600 rpm, no different towing 1000 lbs with no head wind.

A few miles down the road the speed limit is 55 mph and the Passport is happy. But I do feel the Chevy Blazer with its 4.3 liter engine did not work as hard when increasing speed. Passport has to work harder, but once getting there it settles in. Braking is more than adequate towing 1000 lbs @ 55mph. Handling is smooth and predictable.

Time to turn around and put the Elite's nose into the headwind. Wish I had something to have measured wind speed today. It wasn't much, less than 10 mph. The lodge pole pines were barely moving. Using the Trip Computer mode on the dash told me I wasn't dreaming. Indicated speeds bounced back in forth between 54 mph to 58 mph. Watching the instantaneous gas mileage; a dot above 25 mpg to a dot below 25 mpg. Bet the 9 speed tranmission was "a hunt'en & peck'en" looking for something to keep the computers happy. More effort and concentration is needed to maintain a steady speed towing 1000 lbs. Maybe the S mode would let the driver select a gear and remain at that gear ratio. Will have to give it go next fishing trip.

That's my story and sticking to it.

Stuck,
Were the fish biting? ?
 

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I just read that whole thing thinking "He clearly doesn't have it in S. Why isn't he in S?"
S will make the automatic transmission much more tow friendly and yes, you can then set the top gear if you wish to keep it from upshifting into the next gear with too low of an RPM for your liking.
 

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I just read that whole thing thinking "He clearly doesn't have it in S. Why isn't he in S?"
S will make the automatic transmission much more tow friendly and yes, you can then set the top gear if you wish to keep it from upshifting into the next gear with too low of an RPM for your liking.
because the Elite has been at the dealer's two weeks at a time...……...been there (at the dealer's service dept) more than my garage. Just got it back two days ago, has to go back again.

Many features I haven't tried on this lemon.:mad:

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There have been several threads asking about towing. Here is a short review.

Today is a nice day on the Eastern Slopes of the Cascade Mountains; slight winds, 68 degrees F, 5000 feet above sea level. Tow weight: 290 lbs of drift boat, 450 lbs of trailer, one fish'en pole, can of night crawlers for a total tow weight of less than 1000 lbs.

Dealer installed hitch, ATF cooler, & wiring harness; can't blame this part on me! We should be good for 5K lbs.

Pre tow check: Air pressure in trailer tires, ok. Jacked up both wheels and checked bearing clearance, ok. Bearing buddies, ok. Connect harness from trailer to Passport, ok. Running lights, four way flashers, turn signals, stop lights, ok. Lets roll!

This was a trial run for the real deal and to iron out any issues. Total round trip, about 60 miles on mostly level roads with a couple slight uphill grades for good measure.

Takes a half mile run to the main roads and nothing unusual with the Passport; speeds less than 15mph. Once on the blacktop it takes more peddle to the metal to get the Passport up to the speed limit, 45mph. Once up to speed the Passport settles into its normal self, tachometer showing about 1600 rpm. The Passport & transmission likes to pick a gear where the engine is running at 1600 rpm, no different towing 1000 lbs with no head wind.

A few miles down the road the speed limit is 55 mph and the Passport is happy. But I do feel the Chevy Blazer with its 4.3 liter engine did not work as hard when increasing speed. Passport has to work harder, but once getting there it settles in. Braking is more than adequate towing 1000 lbs @ 55mph. Handling is smooth and predictable.

Time to turn around and put the Elite's nose into the headwind. Wish I had something to have measured wind speed today. It wasn't much, less than 10 mph. The lodge pole pines were barely moving. Using the Trip Computer mode on the dash told me I wasn't dreaming. Indicated speeds bounced back in forth between 54 mph to 58 mph. Watching the instantaneous gas mileage; a dot above 25 mpg to a dot below 25 mpg. Bet the 9 speed tranmission was "a hunt'en & peck'en" looking for something to keep the computers happy. More effort and concentration is needed to maintain a steady speed towing 1000 lbs with windy conditions. Maybe the S mode would let the driver select a gear and remain at that gear ratio. Will have to give it go next fishing trip.

That's my story and sticking to it.

Stuck,
I tow a 17' Boston Whaler frequently over the mountain passes in Washington state. The boat and trailer weigh about 2K. I use S when towing, it eliminates gear hunting by the 9 speed trans. On the level 2,500 rpms is great, when you start climbing up a mountain pass the engine tows well at 3,000 to 4,000. The engine develops most of its horsepower at higher rpm ranges. Towing average gpm 16-18. I towed the same boat with my 2013 Pilot. The PP with the 9 speed is a game changer when towing. Enjoy and go tow.
 
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