[kgilbertsen_1]

This popped up yesterday for the first time, a few times, and again today. Happened after I'd been driving for a couple hours. Weather is actually mid 70's here in Chicago. No heat, no a/c. Seems very odd to me. Now, later today, it shuts down at red lights as usual. Any thoughts?

"Idle stop temporarily interrupted system warming up or charging"

 

[jasonpp]

The battery is being drained too much that's why it's disabling the stop start system. The recommendation on this forum is to turn off the start stop function to prevent prematurely damaging the battery.

 

[kgilbertsen_1]

The battery is being drained too much that's why it's disabling the stop start system. The recommendation on this forum is to turn off the start stop function to prevent prematurely damaging the battery.

Wow, already it's happening? Just over 6,000 miles on the car. You'd like to think Honda's fixed the issue by the 2022 model year...

 

[Gatorgibson]

Technology is great when it works, but it rarely works.

 

[jasonpp]

Wow, already it's happening? Just over 6,000 miles on the car. You'd like to think Honda's fixed the issue by the 2022 model year...

Do you do short trips often?
When I got my Honda, the car had been sat on the lot for so long the battery was barely charged.

 

[kgilbertsen_1]

Do you do short trips often?
When I got my Honda, the car had been sat on the lot for so long the battery was barely charged.

I do a mix of short trips and several-hours-long trips. Unlike my wife's '21 Subaru Forester, which has only done short trips for all of it's 19k+ miles, without any issues.
I will be reminding myself to turn the start/stop feature off going forward. I may contact the dealer to hear what they have to say. I'd imagine me installing the kit to permanently deactivate the 'feature' will mess with my warranty somehow, huh?

 

[lvdukerider]

I just automatically press the button every time I start the vehicle and trained my wife to do the same. I don't really feel the need to spend $100 for the Idle stopper, but if you do it's very easy to install/remove before a trip to the dealer to eliminate any potential warranty issues.

 

[kgilbertsen_1]

I just automatically press the button every time I start the vehicle and trained my wife to do the same. I don't really feel the need to spend $100 for the Idle stopper, but if you do it's very easy to install/remove before a trip to the dealer to eliminate any potential warranty issues.

Yeah, now that it's become an issue I think it'll be all the motivation needed to remember to deactivate it whenever I get in the car. The stopper kit will hopefully be an unnecessary expense. Too bad they can't seem to get this feature figured out...

 

[Laurie]

I just automatically press the button every time I start the vehicle and trained my wife to do the same. I don't really feel the need to spend $100 for the Idle stopper, but if you do it's very easy to install/remove before a trip to the dealer to eliminate any potential warranty issues.

Me, too. Got my 2019 Elite in March 2019. Took me a month before I realized I could turn it off. Drove me nuts

 

[calimondin69]

I always turn it off and if i forget my wife reaches over and turns it off. the most useless feature ever. to save a thimble full of gas.

 

[Joachim47]

My 2020 PP elite has now 17K in primarily local "traffic" (Prescott center has some but I rarely go there) and never had a problem with the idle stopper. This battery issue may be not so much due to I.S. but quality of battery and vehicle handling and storing. Mine is always in the garage when not driving and rarely in the AZ heat during the day. The milder winter here doesn't do much to a battery when it is stored mostly indoors. I had battery problems with my Nissan Maxima in the Austin TX climate, 3 batteries in 4 years completely based on battery quality used by Nissan.

 

[jasonpp]

My 2020 PP elite has now 17K in primarily local "traffic" (Prescott center has some but I rarely go there) and never had a problem with the idle stopper. This battery issue may be not so much due to I.S. but quality of battery and vehicle handling and storing. Mine is always in the garage when not driving and rarely in the AZ heat during the day. The milder winter here doesn't do much to a battery when it is stored mostly indoors. I had battery problems with my Nissan Maxima in the Austin TX climate, 3 batteries in 4 years completely based on battery quality used by Nissan.

As is said before. It really depends on the condition of the battery. Once a lead acid battery is compromised by misuse, the damage is irreversible.

 

[kgilbertsen_1]

My 2020 PP elite has now 17K in primarily local "traffic" (Prescott center has some but I rarely go there) and never had a problem with the idle stopper. This battery issue may be not so much due to I.S. but quality of battery and vehicle handling and storing. Mine is always in the garage when not driving and rarely in the AZ heat during the day. The milder winter here doesn't do much to a battery when it is stored mostly indoors. I had battery problems with my Nissan Maxima in the Austin TX climate, 3 batteries in 4 years completely based on battery quality used by Nissan.

I just talked with a service rep at the dealer who said it's a known issue. She advised that the feature be turned off each time I get in the car to avoid further damage to the battery, and hopefully allow it to achieve a decent charge going forward. Seems more than an occasional isolated issue...

 

[Gatorgibson]

Always turn this item off when driving our pp's based off past.post.I also replace our batteries after the 36 month date for piece of mind and not wanting to be stranded. My 2 cents.

 

[fx_chip]

This battery issue may be not so much due to I.S. but quality of battery and vehicle handling and storing.

The issue here is not the Idle Stop feature specifically, the problem is due to the fact that the OEM battery and/or the charging system Honda paired it with does not seem robust enough to handle the strain several start and stop events places on the battery. Idle stop is not a new invention and it's application by several other car makers have not been problematic.
But with hundreds of people complaining about their Passport, Pilot, Ridgeline, Odyssey, TLX and MDX with the Idle Stop feature switching off and becoming unable to restart, with NHTSA concerned enough to open an investigation and with a Class Action lawsuit in the pipeline, I think it's ridiculous to continue blaming vehicle handling and storing or the absence of cross continent drives to charge the battery for the inadequacies of Honda's application of the system.

 

[kgilbertsen_1]

The issue here is not the Idle Stop feature specifically, the problem is due to the fact that the OEM battery and/or the charging system Honda paired it with does not seem robust enough to handle the strain several start and stop events places on the battery. Idle stop is not a new invention and it's application by several other car makers have not been problematic.
But with hundreds of people complaining about their Passport, Pilot, Ridgeline, Odyssey, TLX and MDX with the Idle Stop feature switching off and becoming unable to restart, with NHTSA concerned enough to open an investigation and with a Class Action lawsuit in the pipeline, I think it's ridiculous to continue blaming vehicle handling and storing or the absence of cross continent drives to charge the battery for the inadequacies of Honda's application of the system.

Agreed. It clearly points to a manufacturer design issue. When I mentioned the fact that my wife's Subaru has no issues even though she only does short trips for the19k+ life of her car, the service rep became a mute. Can't blame her, but Honda needs to fix it...

 

[fx_chip]

Agreed. It clearly points to a manufacturer design issue. When I mentioned the fact that my wife's Subaru has no issues even though she only does short trips for the19k+ life of her car, the service rep became a mute. Can't blame her, but Honda needs to fix it...

I can't understand why people keep insisting that one not driving enough is the problem when there has been several experiences reported of people driving their Passport/Pilot for several hours, they park it for a a little while to get something indoors, return to it and it won't start. So they get a jump start, drive it home and park it overnight (longer undriven interval) and it starts fine the next day as if nothing ever happened.

 

[lvdukerider]

Always turn this item off when driving our pp's based off past.post.I also replace our batteries after the 36 month date for piece of mind and not wanting to be stranded. My 2 cents.

I just replaced the 124R Duralast gold last replaced 5/2017, in my 2014 Genesis coupe. Nothing wrong with it, but I felt it was time as the desert heat in Southern Nevada takes its toll. I'm keeping the old one to bench test 12v electrical components and as emergency back up.

 

[uncoild]

I have 46K miles on my '19 Passport. Happened for the very first time just recently while waiting in a line of traffic that everything shut off without warning. Took about 5 minutes before car would start. Battery is fine. Have had other electronics in the car act up on occasion for no apparent reason. Simple fix for idle stop-start... Got and installed idlestopper unit and no further issue. Now idle stop-start default is disabled/off as oppose to enabled. It only took 5 minutes to install the unit and one can still enable the idle stop-start so choose. No brainer and resolved.

 

[WayneJay]

Thankfully I have not had this issue with my '20 PP Elite. I'm approaching 24k miles and I routinely disable the auto stop/start right after shifting out of park.