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So who's selling their Passport?

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This may be an odd thread title for the forum but after reading several posts from users about their complaints with transmission and infotainment issues, it made me wonder, who in the forum is selling their Passport? I have the Touring model and have had the same infotainment issues but didn't hit the panic button as the same thing happened with my sons 2018 Account Touring until a software update and then the issues were resolved. As far as transmission issues, we all have the same 36/36 warranty so these issues will be addressed and repaired. For those who have made the jump to sell or trade their Passport, I would love to hear why and if it was related to these issues or other concerns.

On that note, lets hear it.

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If I thought I could get 98% of what I paid I'd certainly consider it. I haven't had any major issues but I'm underwhelmed by some of Honda's poor design decisions regarding their in-vehicle technology. Sure part of that was on me for not doing enough research on the PP. It was the last vehicle I test drove so it left the biggest impression because there was certainly a lot to like-- the digital speedometer, the comfort, smooth ride, stereo system, cooling seats, wireless charger, LKAS and of course the vehicle looks.

I assumed that feature-for-feature a more expensive 2019 Honda PP Elite would be superior to that of a 2017 Ford Escape Titanium. The Escape's ACC works better, ambient lighting is far superior to the non-ambient lighting in the PP (surprised that Honda can legally refer to it as ambient lighting), blind side detection is better in the Escape and I preferred the location of the warning, Ford app is significantly better than Honda Link (lock/unlock/start/stop work and are free to use vs. the lock/unlock PP features that require a subscription & start/stop requires an Odyssey?!?!?), lack of a front center parking sensor, that annoying disclaimer every time I start the engine, no lights (or option) during the FOB remote start.

My Escape didn't have a front or 360 camera (2 years older) and I knew the PP didn't either but with the lack of a front center sensor not having a front camera is a real miss for me. There have been a few times in the 2+ weeks I've had the PP where no warning occurred when parking inches away from a wall or vehicle. That wasn't an issue with the Escape since it had a front center sensor.
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If I thought I could get 98% of what I paid I'd certainly consider it. I haven't had any major issues but I'm underwhelmed by some of Honda's poor design decisions regarding their in-vehicle technology. Sure part of that was on me for not doing enough research on the PP. It was the last vehicle I test drove so it left the biggest impression because there was certainly a lot to like-- the digital speedometer, the comfort, smooth ride, stereo system, cooling seats, wireless charger, LKAS and of course the vehicle looks.

I assumed that feature-for-feature a more expensive 2019 Honda PP Elite would be superior to that of a 2017 Ford Escape Titanium. The Escape's ACC works better, ambient lighting is far superior to the non-ambient lighting in the PP (surprised that Honda can legally refer to it as ambient lighting), blind side detection is better in the Escape and I preferred the location of the warning, Ford app is significantly better than Honda Link (lock/unlock/start/stop work and are free to use vs. the lock/unlock PP features that require a subscription & start/stop requires an Odyssey?!?!?), lack of a front center parking sensor, that annoying disclaimer every time I start the engine, no lights (or option) during the FOB remote start.

My Escape didn't have a front or 360 camera (2 years older) and I knew the PP didn't either but with the lack of a front center sensor not having a front camera is a real miss for me. There have been a few times in the 2+ weeks I've had the PP where no warning occurred when parking inches away from a wall or vehicle. That wasn't an issue with the Escape since it had a front center sensor.
Next time lease...seems you have a difficult time making an informed decision.
Many of my complaints, and those of others, are due to the fact that many of the faults aren’t fully realized until we’ve had some time behind the wheel. Sure, we are all aware the PP doesn’t have a 360 camera up front, but I was not aware of the flaky information technology until I was out the door. I never had a problem with 4 other Hondas.

These vehicles had only been out a couple of months before many of us bought so we didn’t have a vast pool of information to parse.

I don’t have too many complaints other than the electronics, poor ACC, lack of a 360 camera, placement of the blind spot monitoring light and better parking sensors. Some of this I knew - some I didn’t. I obviously figured I could live with what I knew at time of purchase.

So, if you want to call me uninformed, go ahead. Would I peddle it for 98%. Yep, in a heartbeat.
Mike
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Next time lease...seems you have a difficult time making an informed decision.
I ended up completing a spreadsheet of all of the vehicles I was considering. It was such a pain since different companies refer to things differently. So I was decently informed on most things but didn't get a feel for the ACC on my short test drive or the blind spot alert (my assumption, incorrect as it was, was that newer tech from a more expensive vehicle would be better).

I only parked it once in the open when I returned it so didn't get a feel for the lack of a front center sensor. It was daytime, so didn't know the ambient light was useless. Didn't know much about their app being so awful but I guess I could've installed it pre-purchase (not that it has any functionality w/o entering the VIN so not sure if I would've know just how bad it was).

But fortunately, I did lease it and I'm fine driving it for a few years since I never found the one vehicle that had everything I wanted. So even if I did sell it and paid off the lease or found someone to absorb it I'm not even sure what I'd get. Hopefully by 2022 there will be an Elite model of something that actually has it all.
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