[Gatorgibson]

Well, had oil change, tire rotation and rear diff. Serviced today. Came to pick it up and ask did they perform software update for start/stop. They said no but they would do it if i wanted to wait for about an hour, smdh!
So here i sit waiting for them to perform update🙄
$270 for above service incase someone is wondering.

 

[Gatorgibson]

Also the service manager did say that Honda is planning on stopping putting in the start/stop feature in their vehicles. Time will tell.

 

[blb]

Wow! How did they come up with $270 for that? Care to share the itemization? I'd ask for a loaner car at that point.

 

[fx_chip]

Also the service manager did say that Honda is planning on stopping putting in the start/stop feature in their vehicles. Time will tell.

I heard some unconfirmed talk about this too. That could probably mean Honda dropping it's V6 for a four cylinder turbo to meet fuel economy requirements. NHTSA wants 40 mpg for new vehicles by 2026 so things are about to get more interesting.

 

[ares]

I heard some unconfirmed talk about this too. That could probably mean Honda dropping it's V6 for a four cylinder turbo to meet fuel economy requirements. NHTSA wants 40 mpg for new vehicles by 2026 so things are about to get more interesting.

It would be interesting to see 40MPG without hybridization for crossover.

TBH, 40MPG for sedans should be the norm.

 

[jasonpp]

It would be interesting to see 40MPG without hybridization for crossover.

TBH, 40MPG for sedans should be the norm.

It’s possible. They can make them 3 cylinder and 1 liter with big turbo.

 

[jasonpp]

I heard some unconfirmed talk about this too. That could probably mean Honda dropping it's V6 for a four cylinder turbo to meet fuel economy requirements. NHTSA wants 40 mpg for new vehicles by 2026 so things are about to get more interesting.

It’s a matter of time before they drop the V6 and opt for a turbo 4.

 

[14v6]

I heard some unconfirmed talk about this too. That could probably mean Honda dropping it's V6 for a four cylinder turbo to meet fuel economy requirements. NHTSA wants 40 mpg for new vehicles by 2026 so things are about to get more interesting.

I was confused why Honda at this stage of the game came out with a new DOHC V6 for the Pilot. Whatever the Pilot gets I'd assume the Passport will get it and that's will survive to whatever comes next or ends. Toyota has a Hybrid system for the Highlander so I don't understand why Honda can't follow unless they're going to skip this step and go all electric.

 

[jasonpp]

I was confused why Honda at this stage of the game came out with a new DOHC V6 for the Pilot. Whatever the Pilot gets I'd assume the Passport will get it and that's will survive to whatever comes next or ends. Toyota has a Hybrid system for the Highlander so I don't understand why Honda can't follow unless they're going to skip this step and go all electric.

They made it for the MDX/TLX Type S. Gotta make the money back before retiring it.

 

[14v6]

They made it for the MDX/TLX Type S. Gotta make the money back before retiring it.

I had read that the Anna plant was expanded for the turbo V6 but the Pilot V6 is made at the Alabama plant. It's probably a derivative of the turbo motor but still why doesn't the MDX get the latest and greatest?

 

[Gatorgibson]

I prefer a non turbo engine. I really like the current v6!

 

[jasonpp]

I had read that the Anna plant was expanded for the turbo V6 but the Pilot V6 is made at the Alabama plant. It's probably a derivative of the turbo motor but still why doesn't the MDX get the latest and greatest?

Probably soon. They didn’t have the DOHC V6 until the Pilot.

 

[jasonpp]

I prefer a non turbo engine. I really like the current v6!

It has its pros and cons. Pro being relatively simple and reliable. Con being not efficient when going up in altitude and needs to be revved out for max torque.

 

[ares]

Sub 2k rpm torque can be addicting. But Honda's turbo engines somehow don't feel as good as the VAG engines. Though I'm sure the Honda's engines will last longer...

 

[14v6]

Hybrid splits the difference. Don't have a turbo to worry about but have a battery to worry about but gain crazy good mpg's in some cases. I had 3 CRV's. I gave the CVT a chance but hated it and when they went to a turbo/cvt with a tiny engine I moved on. Look at the metrics of a CRV 1.5 vs a CRV Hybrid it's a no brainer. On my 5th Honda V6 but only my Accord V6 was light enough to deal with the lack of low end torque. Sure it's nice to wind out gears but electrification has changed things.

 

[ares]

See, I don't understand the major dislike of a lot of folks here on the CRV with turbo CVT. I drove it for a year to work and back (moms car and we work in the same side of town) and don't have many complaints...

 

[jasonpp]

See, I don't understand the major dislike of a lot of folks here on the CRV with turbo CVT. I drove it for a year to work and back (moms car and we work in the same side of town) and don't have many complaints...

I think the problem for me is how the lowest ratio for the CVT is not low enough so the off the line acceleration is just not there.

 

[14v6]

I don't think there is major dislike but the CVT on our 15 CRV had to be replaced. Also with the 1.5t you read about head gasket failure in Accords and some say it's because they need higher octane gas. Probably not an issue for the masses but I got some RAV4 hybrids and if they hold up I'm sold It's a nice blend of responsive performance and awesome mpgs. These new Accords and CRV's should be good too but then again if going hybrid why not go with Toyota.

 

[HarveyW]

Probably soon. They didn’t have the DOHC V6 until the Pilot.

The J35Y8 is the first DOHC V6 engine in the 2023 Pilot. Up until then the J35 engines were 24 valve SOHC engines.

 

[jasonpp]

The J35Y8 is the first DOHC V6 engine in the 2023 Pilot. Up until then the J35 engines were 24 valve SOHC engines.

J30AC is actually the first on the TLX/MDX Type S apart from what they used on the first gen NSX.
However I wonder if they are just putting the J30AC head on the J35Y8 because.