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I just ordered and received it this past week and talking with the seller this is the most recent and updated version. It also has the inline fuse build in. Never installed, just had a change of though since im only on a 2 yr lease
I paid $140 CDN shipped to my house so make me a reasonable offer and I'll ship it out!
 

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From all of my research, the new PPs do not have the VCM issues the Odyssey and Ridgeline had. Lurking in those forums, the most recent issues were in the 17 Ridgeline. I have had no issues with the VCM nor can I tell when it kicks in or out.
 
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Oh I can defiantly feel when VCM kicks in!
Like I said my lease is so short it's hardly worth the hassle for me to install it though.
 

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I put mine in after 5 weeks. Not so much due to the 'feel' of VCM functioning, but my research found that after time, around 30k mi., engine damage starts to show up. I don't see how any improvements in VCM can ever eliminate that problem.
My '06 Pilot never had VCM because it was AWD. I wish they still carried over that arrangement to the PP.
 

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I put mine in after 5 weeks. Not so much due to the 'feel' of VCM functioning, but my research found that after time, around 30k mi., engine damage starts to show up. I don't see how any improvements in VCM can ever eliminate that problem.
My '06 Pilot never had VCM because it was AWD. I wish they still carried over that arrangement to the PP.
Are you saying that the AWD Passport has VCM?
 

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From all of my research, the new PPs do not have the VCM issues the Odyssey and Ridgeline had. Lurking in those forums, the most recent issues were in the 17 Ridgeline. I have had no issues with the VCM nor can I tell when it kicks in or out.
They have the same engine and all have VCM.
 

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They have the same engine and all have VCM.
Yup, understand that. My reading though is the issues have been fixed over the last couple years.
 

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Yea, I have the VCMuzzler on my '14 Pilot. Huge improvement. Haven't noticed anything remotely close to those issues in the Passport. I also don't use the Eco button though because I have a feeling they're closely related.
 

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ECON button is not related to VCM.
I’ve heard NOTHING about the Passport having any issues - yet. It’s a new vehicle/line up, for goodness sakes. “Problems” would not be expected to show up - until 100,000 or so, perhaps earlier, from the discussions I’ve been engaged with that involve the Odyssey, Ridgeline, and Pilot.
VCMTUNER 2 advanced, like I have Installed, keeps the vehicle in six cylinder mode at all times. VCM was/is thought to improve gas mileage but I hit a solid 25.2 mpg on the highway at 70+ mph with a 22 cubic foot rooftop cargo carrier full and carrying three adults with their gear.
If you read anything about this philosophy, you’ll find out the problems and issues that just suddenly appeared without warning due to VCM - Honda will not admit to that publicly, but continue to research.
I spent roughly $130 for my device and I can tell a difference. On a new vehicle.
Please allow yourself the opportunity to learn through reading and research on other forums out there from Odyssey to Pilot to Ridgeline. These expensive issues are very real and have NOT been “fixed” by Honda. They cannot “fix” it because BCM keeps them in business just line drugs keep the FDA and healthcare in business - you think they REALLY want a cure? Think again.
 

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The “issues” I’m referring to with the Pilot were obvious performance lags when it engaged the VCM from the beginning of ownership. So I put the muzzler on to prevent it from engaging because it was annoying. Not because I was worried about some down the line failure of some sort. Passport doesn’t have the same annoying lag. Though I’m not opposed to putting one on anyway.
 
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I put mine in after 5 weeks. Not so much due to the 'feel' of VCM functioning, but my research found that after time, around 30k mi., engine damage starts to show up. I don't see how any improvements in VCM can ever eliminate that problem.
My '06 Pilot never had VCM because it was AWD. I wish they still carried over that arrangement to the PP.
What research is that?
 

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A lot of searching thru the Ody and Pilot forums for problems in vehicles up to 6 y.o.
Before that, there were known problems, lawsuits, etc.
My own personal experience on this 'young' engine - uses oil when VCM is enabled.
Never had a J35 loose or use this much before. With VCM disabled, oil level stays stable.
 

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A lot of searching thru the Ody and Pilot forums for problems in vehicles up to 6 y.o.
Before that, there were known problems, lawsuits, etc.
My own personal experience on this 'young' engine - uses oil when VCM is enabled.
Never had a J35 loose or use this much before. With VCM disabled, oil level stays stable.
We have 11000 mostly interstate miles with no oil loss. My scrolling thru the forums seem to indicate VCM hasnt been an issue in new vehicles since the '17 Ridgeline
 

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One example;
 

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One example;

That... that's exactly the year and model scooter was just referring to as the last tim... yeah nevermind.
 

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Given the past issues that were had resulting from VCM operation, I couldn’t see Honda continuing use of the exact same system so I’m sure they improved it in some way. Only time will tell I suppose. I would rather VCM be tied directly to Econ mode only or even a vehicle setting in the menu to deactivate it.
 

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I wonder if what prevents the VCM from engaging in these inhibitors/muzzlers (tricking the ECU into thinking the engine hasn’t reached full temp) would also be a way of “disabling” the Idle Stop System by “default”. Hmmm
 
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