[Jalbert300]

Any update with putting 18" wheels on? Does it offer a smoother ride?

I have Elite with 2k miles and HATE HATE the amount of feedback coming thru steering wheel, even on smooth roads in Florida. To the point where I'm considering trading in and taking the loss. Otherwise I love the vehicle, and if 18" wheels smooth things out then would be happy to pay to swap.

Its also possible what I'm experiencing is vibration

I'm expecting to have a set of 18" wheels on the Passport in the next 1-2 weeks, and will report back when done. I'm not expecting it to make a difference in ride quality. Can you give some details about the issue with steering wheel feedback?

Well after going for a drive today, I feel now that it's like a wavey feeling, maybe a tire out of balance? Wavey or pulsating is best I can describe it, as if the road is wavey and the car is going up and down quickly. Mind u when I say up and down, it's very subtle.

I should have mentioned, at 500 miles i got nail in tire and it had to be replaced. Maybe they didn't balance the new tire...

It's hard to say, I'm not sure if I felt the "issue" before the tire replace. Guess I should go have all the tires checked for balance.

Oh, after they first replaced the tire, it was pulling to one side. They swapped the front tires from side to side and seemed to fix the pull. But is that the best solution? Maybe it's just a bad tire...

All speculation, it's hard to pinpoint what is actually annoying me... Lol

 

[timmah]

Its also possible what I'm experiencing is vibration

Well after going for a drive today, I feel now that it's like a wavey feeling, maybe a tire out of balance? Wavey or pulsating is best I can describe it, as if the road is wavey and the car is going up and down quickly. Mind u when I say up and down, it's very subtle.

I should have mentioned, at 500 miles i got nail in tire and it had to be replaced. Maybe they didn't balance the new tire...

It's hard to say, I'm not sure if I felt the "issue" before the tire replace. Guess I should go have all the tires checked for balance.

Oh, after they first replaced the tire, it was pulling to one side. They swapped the front tires from side to side and seemed to fix the pull. But is that the best solution? Maybe it's just a bad tire...

All speculation, it's hard to pinpoint what is actually annoying me... Lol

Thanks for that. I can tell you I'm not feeling anything out of the ordinary in mine, so as you alluded to, there may be something going on specific to your car? Definitely can't hurt to get the wheel balance checked, and maybe an alignment check to boot, so maybe pursue that if you can.

 

[Jalbert300]

Thanks for that. I can tell you I'm not feeling anything out of the ordinary in mine, so as you alluded to, there may be something going on specific to your car? Definitely can't hurt to get the wheel balance checked, and maybe an alignment check to boot, so maybe pursue that if you can.

They checked alignment on Friday and test drove it and said it was fine. But I don't think my complaint was properly communicated.

But yea, I think next step is get wheel balance checked. I will provide update...

 

[timmah]

Picked up a set of tires from a 17 Pilot. These were new - dealer take-offs, so they are the typical Bridgestone Duelers 245/60/18. Put them on the Passport yesterday, and have to say I am extremely pleased with these. Not overstated, they just add a nice bit of shine to go along with the luna silver. For a touch of uniqueness, I left the original black center caps in, lol. Need some drive time to tell if the ride will change any.

As an aside, I haven't mounted a lot of tires in my lifetime, but this was the first time I used a real torque wrench to re-install the lugs. Based on the level of force (easy) to get the factory installed lugs off, and the amount of force needed to torque them back on at 94lbs, I have been WAY over torquing my lugs up until now, holy cow!

Note: the picture of the tires side by side is very misleading. They are the same height, despite the fact the CrossContact looks like it towers over the Dueler. Just different tread pattern and obviously the Dueler isn't as wide.

 

[TWPHPP]

Picked up a set of tires from a 17 Pilot. These were new - dealer take-offs, so they are the typical Bridgestone Duelers 245/60/18. Put them on the Passport yesterday, and have to say I am extremely pleased with these. Not overstated, they just add a nice bit of shine to go along with the luna silver. For a touch of uniqueness, I left the original black center caps in, lol. Need some drive time to tell if the ride will change any.

As an aside, I haven't mounted a lot of tires in my lifetime, but this was the first time I used a real torque wrench to re-install the lugs. Based on the level of force (easy) to get the factory installed lugs off, and the amount of force needed to torque them back on at 94lbs, I have been WAY over torquing my lugs up until now, holy cow!

Note: the picture of the tires side by side is very misleading. They are the same height, despite the fact the CrossContact looks like it towers over the Dueler. Just different tread pattern and obviously the Dueler isn't as wide.

I’m thinking about some take offs from a 2019 Pilot or Ridgeline that would be the same size as yours. Have you noticed a change in the ride or handling? Thanks!

 

[timmah]

I’m thinking about some take offs from a 2019 Pilot or Ridgeline that would be the same size as yours. Have you noticed a change in the ride or handling? Thanks!

No, I did not notice any change.

 

[DudeCS]

I plan to install 245/60R18 which maintains approximately the same tire dimensions (diameter & circumference) as 265/45R20.

My winter tires (Michelin Latitude X-Ice Xi2) and wheels (Honda Ridgeline) mounted on the PP. With the smaller wheel and more sidewall, the ride is softer and more compliant over bumps.

 

[stevenD]

Bolt pattern: 5 x 120mm
Offset: +55mm
Hub diameter: 64.1 mm

Could someone please explain (again) the following:
1) When do you need to use spacers? And what do they do? And what would happen if you did not use them?

2) Explain the Offset and what happens when you use a rim with less off set?

BIG THANKS!

 

[DudeCS]

Could someone please explain (again) the following:
1) When do you need to use spacers? And what do they do? And what would happen if you did not use them?

2) Explain the Offset and what happens when you use a rim with less off set?

BIG THANKS!

This page on Tire Rack is an explanation for wheel offset. Note the last paragraph on how offset can affect your vehicle.

Adding a spacer would increase offset of the wheel, resulting in a more positive offset measurement (moving it outboard). The spacer should have the same bolt pattern as your wheel hub and same hub size (to keep the wheel hub-centric). Oh, but you cannot add a spacer without changing out the studs versus European cars that use bolts!

A wheel with a lower offset versus OEM would be more inboard.

 

[stevenD]

Thanks Dude, I read it, but I'm still fuzzy the Passport.

The offset for the OEM wheels is +55mm

There are NO 18" wheels shown on Tire Rack that are +55mm

There are 97 wheels with between 38mm and 45mm offset, will these work?

If you use a wheel with 12.7mm (0.50in) difference in offset, does that mean the tire will stick out an extra 1/2 inch?

At what point would the difference be too great and a spacer would be needed?

Anyone?

 

[DudeCS]

Thanks Dude, I read it, but I'm still fuzzy the Passport.

The offset for the OEM wheels is +55mm

There are NO 18" wheels shown on Tire Rack that are +55mm

There are 97 wheels with between 38mm and 45mm offset, will these work?

If you use a wheel with 12.7mm (0.50in) difference in offset, does that mean the tire will stick out an extra 1/2 inch?

At what point would the difference be too great and a spacer would be needed?

anyone?

Yes, that is the predicament if you wish to maintain the OEM +55mm offset. It is nearly impossible with aftermarket wheels.

With the lower offset number, it means that the wheel will be more inboard. If you are going with a smaller wheel and narrower tire, you will likely not have an interference problem.

Options...

1. Buy OEM wheels, either new or used. I found a set of used Honda Ridgeline 18" wheels at a great price (same offset, bolt pattern, hub size). Current generation Honda Ridgeline or Pilot wheels will work. Search locally on Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist for a nice clean set. There are probably a lot of Pilot wheels available.
2. Buy refurbished OEM wheels... current generation of Ridgeline or Pilot wheels will work.
3. Talk to a sales rep at Tire Rack or other wheel supplier for their recommendation and advice.

Adding a spacer is not an option or not practical with the wheel hub. The existing lug would not extend far enough for the lug nut.

Remember that you will need a set of TPMS sensors or move them from your original set.

 

[Lewishouse]

So my question is. Is there a wider tire that would go on an Elite rim to keep the wife from hitting the rim on curbs. Second set she has hit.

 

[WayneP]

So my question is. Is there a wider tire that would go on an Elite rim to keep the wife from hitting the rim on curbs. Second set she has hit.

Prodgirl on this site is running 275/45/20 on her Elite

 

[Lewishouse]

Thanks. I will need to look into that for sure.

 

[DudeCS]

So my question is. Is there a wider tire that would go on an Elite rim to keep the wife from hitting the rim on curbs. Second set she has hit.

Some tires feature a "Rim Protector" (see photo #2 & #3). It is not foolproof, but may help. I think the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ (265/45ZR20) is one that has a rim protector.

 

[Lewishouse]

That's definitely good to know. Thank you so much.

 

[DudeCS]

A wheel with a lower offset versus OEM would be more inboard.

@stevenD ... Sorry, I got this backwards. A lower or more negative offset would move the wheel outboard. This is a better diagram of the difference for positive vs negative offset. With the lower offset of aftermarket wheels, it will be slightly closer to the fender lip. If you are using a narrower tire, it would likely negate the changes due to offset.

 

[TWPHPP]

What changes in the speedometer has anyone had that switched to 245/60R18 tires? Any replies please state your Passport trim level. I went with 2019 Ridgeline Black Edition wheels and Falken Wildpeak AT Trail tires that are listed as 29.7” tires and my speedometer reads more than actual speed measured by GPS. With a larger diameter tire it should be slightly higher than the speedometer states. The only thing I can figure out is that the Falken tires are actually smaller than the stated diameter, Falken and Tirerack lists them at 714 revolutions per mile. I’m still in my 30 day trail period and plan on getting Michelin Defender LTX or Continental AT Terrain Contact in 245/60R18, which are listed on mfr websites as 29.6” diameter and 703 revolutions per mile for the Michelins and 702 for the Continentals. FYI the stock tires on the Elite are listed at 29.4”/ 707 RP mile and Sport and EX-L stock tires are 29.7”/ 699 per Continental.

 

[2000crv]

Alternative OEM wheel and tire size to maintain similar dimensions and ride height, below. Use a Tire Calculator to confirm dimension differences and effect on speedometer.

Passport:

• Tire 265/45R20 (Wheel 20x8.5J ; Offset 55) = Circumference 92.3" = Diameter 29.4"
• Tire 245/50R20 (Wheel 20x8J ; Offset 55) = Circumference 93.1" = Diameter 29.6"

Pilot / Ridgeline:

• Tire 245/50R20 (Wheel 20x8J ; Offset 55) = Circumference 93.1" = Diameter 29.6"
• Tire 245/55R19 (Wheel 19x8J ; Offset 55) = Circumference 93" = Diamter 29.6"
• Tire 245/60R18 (Wheel 18x8J ; Offset 55) = Circumference 92.9" = Diameter 29.6"

If you wish to maintain the same bolt pattern, offset and hub diameter (see post #1), you will likely have to use a Honda or Acura wheel.

18" may be the smallest wheel that will clear the brake calipers? It would be good if someone confirms.

If you search the internet (Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, eBay, etc), it is possible to find used Honda or Acura wheel sets that fit. I have found a set of 18" wheels from a Ridgeline that I will re-purpose for winter duty.

Example of tire size comparison:

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Got a set of 17" "sport edition" wheels from tire rack I got for my 2016 and now on my Passport, work fine.

 

[stevenD]

Got a set of 17" "sport edition" wheels from tire rack I got for my 2016 and now on my Passport, work fine.

Cool, what tires (and sizes) are you running on them?