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Haven't seen much information on the Audison Prima 2 Ohm speakers.

Just wanted to give a recommendation as worthy upgrade from factory units. I'm sure they aren't equivalent to any of the aftermarket installs here, but a solid option for those weighing choices.

Easy enough install. Component system comes with dedicated crossovers. One for each tweeter and one for each woofer. No need to run wires through door boots etc.


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Haven't seen much information on the Audison Prima 2 Ohm speakers.

Just wanted to give a recommendation as worthy upgrade from factory units. I'm sure they aren't equivalent to any of the aftermarket installs here, but a solid option for those weighing choices.

Easy enough install. Component system comes with dedicated crossovers. One for each tweeter and one for each woofer. No need to run wires through door boots etc.


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Very cool, so how do they sound compared to the stock speakers?
Did you only replace the Fronts?
Did you try them without the provided crossovers? Since the OEM Amp is a DSP amp, I'm thinking the incoming signals may already be tuned for a tweeter or woofer and adding the Audison crossovers, may further reduce the frequencies being sent to each speaker, not sure mind you, but you may want to investigate this further..

I'm really liking Audison, I have their APF8.9 DSP Amp and 8" Sub as of now and will be adding their dedicated (mono) sub amp APF1D and a couple of Audison Thesis 1.5 Violino Tweeters very soon..

Here is the link to your speakers:

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Very cool, so how do they sound compared to the stock speakers?
Remarkable difference. The Audison speakers provided so much more clarity and especially mid bass from the doors. The stock 6.5 inch factory speakers are such a poor component and are definitely the weak link to the entire sound system. Someone told me "Anything you install will sound better than those crappy door speakers Honda uses now".

Did you only replace the Fronts?
Did both the front and back. Replaced the rear door speakers as a test bed. That in itself is a worthy upgrade. Was happy with them - so went ahead and purchased that component set for the front. I'm not done yet - but the rear pillar/center dash speakers present more of a challenge as Audison doesn't have a 3" speaker in the Prima line. Only a 2 inch wide range and a 4 inch mid Bass available. There is a 3" in the Voce line (which I'm thinking might not be a good alternative for me with the factory amp driving them.) Got some considerations ahead of me. Thoughts?

Did you try them without the provided crossovers? Since the OEM Amp is a DSP amp, I'm thinking the incoming signals may already be tuned for a tweeter or woofer and adding the Audison crossovers, may further reduce the frequencies being sent to each speaker, not sure mind you, but you may want to investigate this further..
Did not. Noticed the tweeters and also center dash speakers have a capacitor built into the positive terminals. Wasn't sure if those were a bass blocker factory type version of a crossover, or just some last chance type of high pass filter to protect the speakers. It may be redundant, but ultimately I decided to install all the Audison crossovers to allow the new system to operate as they were designed.

I'm really liking Audison, I have their APF8.9 DSP Amp and 8" Sub as of now and will be adding their dedicated (mono) sub amp APF1D and a couple of Audison Thesis 1.5 Violino Tweeters very soon..
I've read a lot of your stuff - more than once, and envious. It was my first exposure to them. Appreciate all the info, it was a big help in getting me to this point and so fast. I considered a full aftermarket upgrade. Got a bit overwhelmed with all the speakers and amp considerations (My first time through), and didn't find an installer in my immediate area that seemed a good fit. Keep the info coming. a subwoofer/amp improvement project is on my list.

PS: If those are your videos on the ANC deactivation and subwoofer installs - thank you, will come in handy in the future, especially if I decide to do it myself.
 

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I have an EX-L . I replace my front and rears with Focal components. Had to cut holes for the rear door tweeters as the EX-L does not have them. They are similar as they also have inline crossovers for the tweeter and woofers. This does save mounting a standard crossover box. I do agree that a simple speaker upgrade improves clarity greatly.
 

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Remarkable difference. The Audison speakers provided so much more clarity and especially mid bass from the doors. The stock 6.5 inch factory speakers are such a poor component and are definitely the weak link to the entire sound system. Someone told me "Anything you install will sound better than those crappy door speakers Honda uses now".
Great to know, I saw the orinigainal speakers ans it's surprising how good they sound in light of how they are constructed....

Did both the front and back. Replaced the rear door speakers as a test bed. That in itself is a worthy upgrade. Was happy with them - so went ahead and purchased that component set for the front. I'm not done yet - but the rear pillar/center dash speakers present more of a challenge as Audison doesn't have a 3" speaker in the Prima line. Only a 2 inch wide range and a 4 inch mid Bass available. There is a 3" in the Voce line (which I'm thinking might not be a good alternative for me with the factory amp driving them.) Got some considerations ahead of me. Thoughts?
The Focal speakers I have installed at the moment fit nicely behind the existing 3" C Pillar locations. Due to the Angle that the C Pillar speakers are pointing (At the driver/passengers heads) they provide a lot of direct sound! I would try to mount your Audison Tweeter the same way.

NOTE: For my next upgrade, I will be mounting Audison Thesis 1.5 II Violino Tweeters in that location, not behind the OEM grills though, they will be mounted with the Grills showing.

I've read a lot of your stuff - more than once, and envious. It was my first exposure to them. Appreciate all the info, it was a big help in getting me to this point and so fast. I considered a full aftermarket upgrade. Got a bit overwhelmed with all the speakers and amp considerations (My first time through), and didn't find an installer in my immediate area that seemed a good fit. Keep the info coming. a subwoofer/amp improvement project is on my list.
I guess I'm still a bit confused, you have TWO sets of the APK 165 2-ohms? One is mounted in the front and the rears, you only mounted the woofers in the doors? Leaving the OEM Mids (or whatever they are..lol) in the C Pillars? IF YES to all of that, I would go ahead and mount your second set of Tweeters in the rear.

As far as an Amp, I would suggest looking at the Audison AP 8.9 (see link below) : 8 channels, 65wpc @ 2ohms, which will drive your speakers just fine!


Oh perhaps I missed it, Did you sound deaden your doors? It makes a HUGE difference!

Lastly, you've inspired me to do another Audio Upgrade recommendation thread, look for it soon...

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They are similar as they also have inline crossovers for the tweeter and woofers. This does save mounting a standard crossover box.
Interesting. I looked into Focals and didn't come across those.
 

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NOTE: For my next upgrade, I will be mounting Audison Thesis 1.5 II Violino Tweeters in that location, not behind the OEM grills though, they will be mounted with the Grills showing.
Those are going to look Badass!

I guess I'm still a bit confused, you have TWO sets of the APK 165 2-ohms? One is mounted in the front and the rears, you only mounted the woofers in the doors? Leaving the OEM Mids (or whatever they are..lol) in the C Pillars? IF YES to all of that, I would go ahead and mount your second set of Tweeters in the rear.
Yea, I'm compartmentalizing the entire project. My first step was only the rear door speakers. I used these. They claim to be an authorized Audison distributer.


Next I installed the APK 165 2 Ohm component set you linked previously - in the front. For now, the original stock aft pillar mid range speakers are still installed, but their time is short lived.

As far as an Amp, I would suggest looking at the Audison AP 8.9 (see link below) : 8 channels, 65wpc @ 2ohms, which will drive your speakers just fine!
I'm thinking an amp for the subwoofer. Subwoofer/amp upgrade project down the road. Will be looking for Sub replacement speaker ( and most likely and amplifier to drive it ) recommendations then. I did look into the AP 8.9, wanted to upgrade but was leaning on keeping the system stock if I could pull it off.

Oh perhaps I missed it, Did you sound deaden your doors? It makes a HUGE difference!
Thanks. Not yet. Plan on it - Saw some factory sound deadening material on the floor panels near the subwoofer - so wanted to get a look inside the doors.
Once the weather breaks around here in the Northeast and the ambient outside temps increase, I'll go back and treat the doors.
 

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Haven't seen much information on the Audison Prima 2 Ohm speakers.

Just wanted to give a recommendation as worthy upgrade from factory units. I'm sure they aren't equivalent to any of the aftermarket installs here, but a solid option for those weighing choices.

Easy enough install. Component system comes with dedicated crossovers. One for each tweeter and one for each woofer. No need to run wires through door boots etc.


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I am thinking about getting two sets of the Audison APK 165 for my Passport. When you were installing them, did you use wire harness adapters to connect them to the OEM system or did you have to do some modding/splicing?
 

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I used harness adapters. If you install the crossover you will still have to splice wires. Otherwise no splicing required. The adapters for the door speakers are different from the pillar speakers.


Pillar adapters


door speaker adapters

Just my .02 - The rear pillar speakers are 3 inch midrange speakers. Not tweeters. I’m a newbie at this so I’ll spare you my opinion on changing the stock factory sound stage just keep in mind installing a 1 inch tweeter in that location isn’t a direct replacement like the front pillars are.
 

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I used harness adapters. If you install the crossover you will still have to splice wires. Otherwise no splicing required. The adapters for the door speakers are different from the pillar speakers.
Appreciate the info! You said that the crossovers that come with the Audison system needed splicing so did you need to splice some of your speakers? I thought I read that you used the crossovers 🤔 I think someone in the forums replaced their center speaker with the Infinity Kappa MX-20s since the factory center speaker wasn't a true 3". I wonder how they might work in the rear pillars....
 

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Appreciate the info! You said that the crossovers that come with the Audison system needed splicing so did you need to splice some of your speakers? I thought I read that you used the crossovers 🤔 I think someone in the forums replaced their center speaker with the Infinity Kappa MX-20s since the factory center speaker wasn't a true 3". I wonder how they might work in the rear pillars....

Glad someone had the answer to this, I had mine down at a shop and have no idea what the did.

As far as the Audison APK 165 - MAKE SURE you get the 2 ohm version:
And DO NOT (repeat do not) use the Audison crossovers, just swap out the speakers - component per component.

As far as the center channel, yes someone here swapped it out, but it was a huge hassle and NOT worth the time, more or effort, I suggest just leaving the OEM one in there!
 

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Appreciate the info! You said that the crossovers that come with the Audison system needed splicing so did you need to splice some of your speakers? I thought I read that you used the crossovers 🤔 I think someone in the forums replaced their center speaker with the Infinity Kappa MX-20s since the factory center speaker wasn't a true 3". I wonder how they might work in the rear pillars....
I did install all the crossovers and spliced them inline with the positive terminal. Having the adapter harness allowed me to build everything up then take it to the vehicle and plug it in.

The center dash speaker and rear pillar speakers are different speakers. The center dash speaker is probably the best speaker in the entire system. Looks like it has a bigger magnet than the 6 inch door speakers. The rear pillar speakers are pathetic. If you replace the others plan on replacing those too

I used Audison Voce 3 inch speakers in the rear pillars. Required some modification to mount them.

Lastly, I agree with Steven D. Purchase the 2 Ohm version of that set
 

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I did install all the crossovers and spliced them inline with the positive terminal. Having the adapter harness allowed me to build everything up then take it to the vehicle and plug it in.

The center dash speaker and rear pillar speakers are different speakers. The center dash speaker is probably the best speaker in the entire system. Looks like it has a bigger magnet than the 6 inch door speakers. The rear pillar speakers are pathetic. If you replace the others plan on replacing those too

I used Audison Voce 3 inch speakers in the rear pillars. Required some modification to mount them.

Lastly, I agree with Steven D. Purchase the 2 Ohm version of that set
Appreciate all the info and recommendations! Did you end up putting a dedicated amp/dsp in yet?
 

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Appreciate all the info and recommendations! Did you end up putting a dedicated amp/dsp in yet?
No. That’s all stock. Just replaced the speakers. Took Steven D’s recommendation and bought the 2 Ohm version and couldn't be happier. Amazing how well that system sounds now.
 

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No. That’s all stock. Just replaced the speakers. Took Steven D’s recommendation and bought the 2 Ohm version and couldn't be happier. Amazing how well that system sounds now.
That's great to hear. I am not up to the stage of doing full-on wiring for an external amp. Labor costs around here for audio work are pretty high so I've decided to install the speakers myself. How extensive were the modifications to fit the voce 3inch mid range in the rear pillars?
 

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Just some arts and crafts. The Voce speaker basket was larger than the stock one. Had to trim back one side then cut off the other mount tower and use a back strap. Not a big deal but will take some time. I used some old house door weather stripping on the speaker frame between it and the sidewall panel to channel all the sound out the grille. The harness adapters were the same as the front pillar tweeters.
 

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Just some arts and crafts. The Voce speaker basket was larger than the stock one. Had to trim back one side then cut off the other mount tower and use a back strap. Not a big deal but will take some time. I used some old house door weather stripping on the speaker frame between it and the sidewall panel to channel all the sound out the grille. The harness adapters were the same as the front pillar tweeters.
Doesn't seem like it'd be too risky for me to try haha. I was debating the Audison 2" wide range, but the sensitivity rating on them is not the best for using with the factory amp :(
 

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Hey I can get brand new Audison products at pretty good discounts and will check price & availability on the 165 2-ohm set early next week and let you know.

I would swap out the front Tweeters & Woofers first, and given it a listen, before doing the rears or the center channel...

Also, I would hook them up WITHOUT the crossovers first, as the Honda DSP Amp ALREADY has digital crossovers, if you don't believe me do some checking on your own with some of you local shops...
 

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Hey I can get brand new Audison products at pretty good discounts and will check price & availability on the 165 2-ohm set early next week and let you know.

I would swap out the front Tweeters & Woofers first, and given it a listen, before doing the rears or the center channel...

Also, I would hook them up WITHOUT the crossovers first, as the Honda DSP Amp ALREADY has digital crossovers, if you don't believe me do some checking on your own with some of you local shops...
Oooo that would be awesome! Greatly appreciated Steven! Oh yea, I have researched about the Honda head unit and the internal crossover. The Ridgeline forums had someone test it out and the signal was definitely not full range...at least to the front pillar/doors and the rear doors. I didn't see any information on the Mids in the rear pillars 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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