[EDB]

Per torquenews.com:

"Honda won’t tell you this, but the new 2019 Passport SUV is not selling. See the unadvertised discounts customers can get now.
If you are looking for the best deals on an SUV, take a look at the new 2019 Honda Passport. Honda is not selling many of the new Passport SUVs and they are offering substantial discounts now that are not being advertised. According to CarsDirect, American Honda is offering up to $2,250 off the new Passport to move them off dealer lots.
The report says Honda is now giving dealers an unadvertised incentive worth up to $1,250 to help move the new American-made SUV out of the showrooms. If shoppers know how to negotiate, you might be able to get up to $2,250 in potential savings. It would be wise for customers to pit one dealer against another to get even more off the MSRP......"

 

[407guy]

Dunno about this. When we purchased our HP in March 2019 they were selling in central Florida for 2k off MSRP. Now if this is in addition to general discounts, well, that isn't good. I wonder what Honda was hoping for sales numbers on this SUV.

 

[DiabloHnda]

I got $6k off msrp on my elite a month ago

 

[SteveZ]

Dunno about this. When we purchased our HP in March 2019 they were selling in central Florida for 2k off MSRP. Now if this is in addition to general discounts, well, that isn't good. I wonder what Honda was hoping for sales numbers on this SUV.

Dunno about this. When we purchased our HP in March 2019 they were selling in central Florida for 2k off MSRP. Now if this is in addition to general discounts, well, that isn't good. I wonder what Honda was hoping for sales numbers on this SUV.

$5K off my Touring back in May.

 

[oharaross]

$3,600 off MSRP on my Elite in July.

 

[ProdGirl]

No discount off MSRP on my Elite on April 13. Dealer gave me some BS paint protection plan and 1 free year of the Honda warranty after buying 5 years.

 

[storm303]

Not sure if that means a subsidy and who is motivated to say they are not selling. Cars almost never sell at MSRP. From figures I found online, they have sold about 25,000 in 9 months. For reference, Kia Sorento sells about 100K units a year and Toyota Highlander sells 200K or more per year- both have been selling for over ten years and building their brand, model. The Passport is a first year car positioned close to the Pilot and Honda is not the go to SUV Brand. I'd say they have a problem and it is a 'subsidy' if they don't continue increasing sales next year.

For the record, Toyota offered me 3K off their Highlander but I didn't quite like the car. For the Passport, Honda gave me 3K off and another 1K for trading a brand they wanted to resell.

 

[stevenD]

Hello people, I'm sure we have seen all the dealers giving increased discounts at the end of model years, we got $7k off a $49k Lexus a few years ago.

Now this is just a guess, but I think any discounts at this time of year are meant to move out the remaining 2019 models and clear the lots for the 2020 versions.

No need to panic....lol

 

[AL904]

It’s late October and I can’t find even a hint of the 2020 Passport in a pretty thorough search of the web. I know the 2019 was released late in the new-car season, but it seems to me that the 2020s would at least be in the pipeline by now.

Is anyone else wondering if there will even be a 2020? Or is Honda management in the process of considering whether to discontinue this model that is so close to the Pilot in specs?

For the record, I love my 2019 Pilot, but I plan to trade it for a Passport soon? If I had been smart, I would have waited for the Passport to come out before I bought the Pilot as soon as the 2019s hit the dealers. I don’t need a third row, and want an AWD with a little more off-road capability.

 

[SoundsGood]

Or is Honda management in the process of considering whether to discontinue this model that is so close to the Pilot in specs?

I highly doubt that.

I don’t need a third row, and want an AWD with a little more off-road capability.

And this is partly why.

 

[SteveZ]

Not sure if that means a subsidy and who is motivated to say they are not selling. Cars almost never sell at MSRP. From figures I found online, they have sold about 25,000 in 9 months. For reference, Kia Sorento sells about 100K units a year and Toyota Highlander sells 200K or more per year- both have been selling for over ten years and building their brand, model. The Passport is a first year car positioned close to the Pilot and Honda is not the go to SUV Brand. I'd say they have a problem and it is a 'subsidy' if they don't continue increasing sales next year.

For the record, Toyota offered me 3K off their Highlander but I didn't quite like the car. For the Passport, Honda gave me 3K off and another 1K for trading a brand they wanted to resell.

I live in Massachusetts and purchased my Touring in mid May. Since my purchase I have only seen three passports on the road (and one my have been the same twice). I traded a 2012 Pilot EXL that I loved and had zero issues with. Having said that I couldn't be happier with my Touring Passport. I am surprised I haven't seen many on the road, usually that's all you see after you buy a new vehicle.

 

[Gmjohnson]

Is Torquenews a legitimate news outlet? That article popped up on my google news feed, and I assumed it was just click bait.

 

[EDB]

Is Torquenews a legitimate news outlet? That article popped up on my google news feed, and I assumed it was just click bait.

They have various articles as respects he automotive industry..not just concerning Honda. Go look.

 

[ErnieD2]

It’s late October and I can’t find even a hint of the 2020 Passport in a pretty thorough search of the web. I know the 2019 was released late in the new-car season, but it seems to me that the 2020s would at least be in the pipeline by now.

Is anyone else wondering if there will even be a 2020? Or is Honda management in the process of considering whether to discontinue this model that is so close to the Pilot in specs?

For the record, I love my 2019 Pilot, but I plan to trade it for a Passport soon? If I had been smart, I would have waited for the Passport to come out before I bought the Pilot as soon as the 2019s hit the dealers. I don’t need a third row, and want an AWD with a little more off-road capability.

Just know you should get a pretty darn good deal on a 2019 Passport if you're so inclined to buy that yr model. I traded my 22k miles, '15 Highlander because I never used the 3rd row. And I just like the looks of the new Passport. peace, e.

 

[ErnieD2]

I live in Massachusetts and purchased my Touring in mid May. Since my purchase I have only seen three passports on the road (and one my have been the same twice). I traded a 2012 Pilot EXL that I loved and had zero issues with. Having said that I couldn't be happier with my Touring Passport. I am surprised I haven't seen many on the road, usually that's all you see after you buy a new vehicle.

Here in SE TX too, not a PP yet, I think? I see what I think are PP's and nope just another Pilot. These things are rarer than a spotted ape, in my area.
At times I think, there was nothing at all wrong with my '15 Highlander w/22k miles and I should've kept it. I log about 8k-9k miles per year; if that.

I just got caught up in the hype of reading and watching videos of the new Passport. And though some pretty big quality issues, others have had, worry me, I am really enjoying driving my 5 month old, 2wd, Passport Touring-Obscenely Blue.

Aprox. 3200 trouble free miles, ? peace, e.

 

[lisuba]

I live in Mountain View, CA, and there's a black sport Passport around the corner from me. I just went over the 8k mile mark. No issues yet.

 

[herothedog]

My wife got t-boned in her new 2019 CRV that we got in the spring (due to the 2.5 mile commute, it only had 2000 miles on it but was a total loss due to structural damage). We bought a brand new one two weeks ago, exactly the same except for color, and it was discounted at $2500. All the cars in stock seemed to be discounted at least $2200. In total, I got ~$3500 in discounts on my Elite last week and it was not even on the lot yet but in transit. So the discounts I don't think apply just to the Passport.

I was told that manufacturing is looking to run out the parts for 2019s, and 2020s will start arriving in showrooms around Feb. If you want to believe a word anybody at a dealership says...

 

[ErnieD2]

My wife got t-boned in her new 2019 CRV that we got in the spring (due to the 2.5 mile commute, it only had 2000 miles on it but was a total loss due to structural damage). We bought a brand new one two weeks ago, exactly the same except for color, and it was discounted at $2500. All the cars in stock seemed to be discounted at least $2200. In total, I got ~$3500 in discounts on my Elite last week and it was not even on the lot yet but in transit. So the discounts I don't think apply just to the Passport.

I was told that manufacturing is looking to run out the parts for 2019s, and 2020s will start arriving in showrooms around Feb. If you want to believe a word anybody at a dealership says...

WOAH, tough way to have to get a new ride, hope she's well. And I hope you enjoy your Elite. I always liked the CR-V but much prefer larger SUV's for my purposes. When I saw the 2 row seats, Passport. I knew my '15 HL would not be around for much longer.

It is that time of year where one may see deep discounts. That's always a plus when auto shopping....I just couldn't wait. But I'm very pleased with the about $4500 saviings of my PP Touring back in May. peace, e.

 

[stevenD]

I worked in the Automotive Manufacturing business for about 12 years, I've been to Chrysler manufacturing plants in Mexico, Canada and the US, I've stood at and under the assembly lines. Typically when new model year vehicle is launched in Nov/Dec, the previous model year builds closed out around June or July, then the assembly plant gets rehab'd/refereshed for a month or so, then the next models get trial runs through the assembly lines, they train the workers, they time every process and review the overall assembly time, logistics makes sure all the new parts are in place and after everything gets a green light - they start production, usually around Sept/Oct, building a surplus of new vehicles, then they flow them out to the dealers, the goal is for vehicles to be available nationwide at the start of sales.

The Passport went on sale in early Feb (2019) and is made at the same plant as the Pilot, I am not sure if they use the same Assembly line or not, but if they do, then there are all sorts of logistics issues that need to be implemented.

My GUESS, is that they have already ceased production of 2019 Passports and whatever is on the Lots or still in the delivery pipeline is all that will be available. Then around mid-Nov they should start making the 2020 models, creating a stocking and then start sending them out mid-Jan 2020. That is if they keep the same release date.

 

[AL904]

My GUESS, is that they have already ceased production of 2019 Passports and whatever is on the Lots or still in the delivery pipeline is all that will be available. Then around mid-Nov they should start making the 2020 models, creating a stocking and then start sending them out mid-Jan 2020. That is if they keep the same release date.

That sounds very logical and is encouraging!