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OK, I have owned dozens of cars over the years. Own about 8 right now. Every manufacturer that i have ever dealt with has a mileage chart posted someplace that gives you guidelines in terms of what maintenance items need to be done at each mileage. I am aware of the "Maintenance Minder" that Honda has but someone someplace has to have a chart with actual mileage numbers!? Can anyone help me find that illusive chart?

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Wouldn't that info be in your owner's manual?
It’s been an owners manual’s for the last 50 years but Honda doesn’t feel the need to give that information to their customers. They would rather try to confuse people with a complicated chart of maintenance ABC 123’s Instead of actually providing a chart in the back of the owners manual like every other manufacture has done forever. I just find it strange that there can’t be one person that works for Honda maintenance that’s part of this forum they can tell everybody that they have an internal chart .
 

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This is probably the closest that you get.
Yeah i saw that already and is no way shape or form adequate. I own a 2006 Ford GT which is a super expensive toy that even had a detailed maintenance chart. I know historically the stereotype for most Honda owners were that they couldn't even find the oil filler cap on their car, so Honda just figures if we give them a little light on the dash to tell them what to do that should suffice. Its almost like these days Honda doesn't give their owners enough credit for being able to do there own maintenance if they choose.
I spoke to a guy at a local honda shop today that told me the main reason Honda doesnt want the public to have the chart is so that it forces them to come to the shop to get the work done. He told me there is a list that all Honda service shops have but they are not alloud to release it. I just can't believe that no one on a honda forum hasnt found a way to get a copy of it.
 

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Yes, I understand your frustration. At one time for Honda, the maintenance schedule was available. It was also possible to buy a paper copy of the factory shop manual from Helm Inc. Now, it is a subscription based service. (see thread #77)... the maintenance schedule may be there?
 

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Yes, I understand your frustration. At one time for Honda, the maintenance schedule was available. It was also possible to buy a paper copy of the factory shop manual from Helm Inc. Now, it is a subscription based service. (see thread #77)... the maintenance schedule may be there?
I think those are the books I ordered a few days ago. Will see.
 

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What seems to be missing is time-based info. We have just 1300 miles on our 2019 PP purchased in Nov 2019 and already have the Maintenance Minder A pestering us (change oil). I dunno that sitting in a 40F (up North) garage all winter has caused the oil to become degraded and need changing! The display certainly annoys my wife, and she hits Enter to make it go away...
 

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If you browse through the menu to the Maintenance Minder, it tells you what service you are going to need when it is time, but you don't have to get your Passport serviced until Maintenance Minder pops up on its own.
 

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What seems to be missing is time-based info. We have just 1300 miles on our 2019 PP purchased in Nov 2019 and already have the Maintenance Minder A pestering us (change oil). I dunno that sitting in a 40F (up North) garage all winter has caused the oil to become degraded and need changing! The display certainly annoys my wife, and she hits Enter to make it go away...
I just got mine this week. so new to the Passport family. had a few Honda’s over the years.

As for the Minder A prompt, what I am hearing is that the Minder counts time and distance which wasn’t the case previously, so even though you don’t have the 5K miles it has been 6 months hence the alert.

About the scheduler. Look a bit lower on the first page of the link. It shows time frames for what is due on Honda’s.

Try this one, it is a little bit more specific.

 

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I appreciate having both of the Maintenance Schedules that were posted. However, both do not show when the differential fluid should be changed on AWD PPs. I have seen both, 10,000 miles and at 15,000 miles. I am coming up on 10,000 miles soon. I know it would not hurt to do the change early but would rather wait until 15,000 if called for by Honda. Appreciate any thoughts.
 

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I appreciate having both of the Maintenance Schedules that were posted. However, both do not show when the differential fluid should be changed on AWD PPs. I have seen both, 10,000 miles and at 15,000 miles. I am coming up on 10,000 miles soon. I know it would not hurt to do the change early but would rather wait until 15,000 if called for by Honda. Appreciate any thoughts.
Replace rear differential fluid​
Use Honda DPSF-ll.
Capacity: 1.82 L (1.92 US qt)
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Driving in mountainous areas at very low vehicle speeds or towing trailer results in higher level of mechanical (shear) stress to fluid. This requires differential fluid changes more frequently than recommended by the Maintenance Minder. If the vehicle is regularly driven under these conditions, have the differential fluid changed at 7,500 miles (12,000 km), then every 15,000 miles (24,000 km).
 

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Not seeing "time frames" e.g. our Service Due at 6mo anywhere.
There isn’t anything for 6 months specifically.
The recommendation in the owners manual is for an oil change every 5K miles or 6 months. Oil change is an A code.
You got the code because the current Minder technology is counting the time and/or miles and thinks you are due because you met one of the criteria.

IMO no harm in waiting until closer to 5K miles for the oil change, you just have to deal with the annoying indicator. Service mechanics will reset it then.
Or you can reset the Minder yourself and remember to get the oil changed at 5K miles because there will be no notice for the next service until whatever your odometer reads today + 5K miles.
 
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Replace rear differential fluid​
Use Honda DPSF-ll.
Capacity: 1.82 L (1.92 US qt)
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Driving in mountainous areas at very low vehicle speeds or towing trailer results in higher level of mechanical (shear) stress to fluid. This requires differential fluid changes more frequently than recommended by the Maintenance Minder. If the vehicle is regularly driven under these conditions, have the differential fluid changed at 7,500 miles (12,000 km), then every 15,000 miles (24,000 km).
I had to do it at 10K. The dealer mentioned it would be needed again at 30K.
 

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There isn’t anything for 6 months specifically.
The recommendation in the owners manual is for an oil change every 5K miles or 6 months. Oil change is an A code.
You got the code because the current Minder technology is counting the time and/or miles and thinks you are due because you met one of the criteria.

IMO no harm in waiting until closer to 5K miles for the oil change, you just have to deal with the annoying indicator. Service mechanics will reset it then.
Or you can reset the Minder yourself and remember to get the oil changed at 5K miles because there will be no notice for the next service until whatever your odometer reads today + 5K miles.
Thanks for that EKJ! I think to make Wifey happy (it's her PP after all) I will see about resetting the thing. Maybe if we haven't hit 5K by the vehicle's 1st anniversary (in November) we'll have it serviced then!
 

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I had to do it at 10K. The dealer mentioned it would be needed again at 30K.
I'm at 9980 miles and maintenance minder is showing B16 (oil, filter, tire rotation, various checks, and rear diff. fluid change).
 
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