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Only had the passport for a few weeks, and no maintenance is due yet. Was just poking around on the Honda owners site, and this jumped out at me. Is there really a time when they recommend you replace the oil, but not the oil filter? I've been a long time Honda owner, including a few recent models that have the maintenance minder, but this is a first for me. I went to the website on a PC just to be sure it says the same thing when viewed through a standard web browser, and it sure does. Someone must have the scoop on this. Sorry if this has been discussed already, I did try to search and did not find it discussed previously in the various oil change threads posted so far.
 

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It is cheap insurance to change the oil filter with every oil change? Approximately $7 for an oil filter vs $30 for 6 qts oil. "Just do it!"
 

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Agreed! I’m just surprised to see what appears to be the suggestion that changing the oil filter isn’t necessary each time you change the oil. Was worried maybe I was behind the times and missed the latest worldwide accepted oil change routine...Replace that crusty old burned up oil, but keep the filter?
 

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Anyone think skipping a $10 filter on a $40k car is wise.........?
 

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Anyone think skipping a $10 filter on a $40k car is wise.........?
Not me. To quote Ben Franklin, "A once of prevention is worth a pound of cure". As someone earlier said whats an additional $7 for a filter to ensure clean oil in the engine, especially the first oil change. With engine tolerances so close and lubricating oil viscosities so thin, it's worth all the precaution you can get in efficient engine operation.
 

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Change the filter always! The way I look at it is you are already putting premium synthetic oil in the crankcase, why would you not change the filter? So yeah, I agree with you folks. Do both, not one.
 

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I will change my filter (Bosch D3323), with the 1st couple of oil changes.
I change my full syn oil between 2700 - 3300 miles and I don't go all the way to 60%, so after the 1st couple of changes I will alternate changing the filter.
When I pour the old oil into the recycle bottle it's brown, but I can still see thru it.
If I wait another 1,000 miles, the oil loses its transparency.

So, I don't follow instructions well.
 
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Because oil filters are very inexpensive, in some of our Hondas we replace them halfway the oil change interval. Just the opposite of the OP reference manual.
We use MAHLE OC707 in all our CRV's, Ridgelines, Passports and usually drive all the way to the end of Maintenance Minder Zero(0) Life.
 

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Just my opinion, but only 2,000 to 3,000 miles on Synthetic oil is a waste of money and resources on a properly running engine. Just please recycle your used oil and filter properly to protect the environment.
 
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At my first oil change at the dealer recently, I asked about changing the filter. I was told "we always change the filter with an oil change". The repair order listed it.
 

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In fact, we do the opposite of "not changing filter at every oil change" and periodically, about half-way (around 4,000 miles each with oil change at 8,000) swap out old oil filter between oil changes. In bulk purchase all matching oil filters for our various Hondas are priced at less than 2.00 (yes, retail is triple) so it is cheap insurance and simple to do with a piece of cardboard or ziplock bag to contain any drips. Then again, we normally pay only $1 - $2/qt for syn oil so not expensive either way. Pennzoil has an active promo right now and we made each family member purchase Pennzoil Ultra Platinum syn 5qt for $20 from Amazon (free Prime shipping) and got $22 Shell Gas Cards in the mail.
 
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