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I had planned to buy a CR-V but my salesperson convinced me to test drive a Passport and I must say I liked it much better. Going back with my wife tomorrow morning and if we both agree we could be new Passport owners tomorrow. It is a 2020 EX-L in white.

So I'm looking at buying a 2020 Passport that has about 41k miles. Based on my research, I could be looking at changing the timing belt as soon as 60k miles, which for me will be about this time next year (I drive 18k - 20k miles a year). Has anyone already had to change the timing belt on one of these? Just wondering what you paid. Did you use the dealer or an independent shop?

(*I sure wish Honda would ditch the belts and put chains in all their engines.)

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How exciting, grats! We originally looked at the CR-V as well, but were immediately won over by the Passport.
 

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I had planned to buy a CR-V but my salesperson convinced me to test drive a Passport and I must say I liked it much better. Going back with my wife tomorrow morning and if we both agree we could be new Passport owners tomorrow. It is a 2020 EX-L in white.
V6 with 280hp! No turbos or cvt transmission to worry about!
 

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Maybe you can negotiate the upcoming Timing Belt Replacement in your deal...
 

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Maybe you can negotiate the upcoming Timing Belt Replacement in your deal...
Yes, I have thought about that and plan to ask. The car I am looking at has been serviced by the selling dealer all its life so I should be able to see previous maintenance records as well.
 

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I had planned to buy a CR-V but my salesperson convinced me to test drive a Passport and I must say I liked it much better. Going back with my wife tomorrow morning and if we both agree we could be new Passport owners tomorrow. It is a 2020 EX-L in white.

So I'm looking at buying a 2020 Passport that has about 41k miles. Based on my research, I could be looking at changing the timing belt as soon as 60k miles, which for me will be about this time next year (I drive 18k - 20k miles a year). Has anyone already had to change the timing belt on one of these? Just wondering what you paid. Did you use the dealer or an independent shop?

(*I sure wish Honda would ditch the belts and put chains in all their engines.)

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Changing the timing belt is quite involving, here is a YouTube video of someone changing the timing belt of an MDX but the engine is virtually the same with that of the Honda Pilot/Passport/Ridgeline.

 

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On several previous vehicles (Prelude & 4Runner) whenever I had the Timing Belt changed, I also changed the Water Pump, typically there was no (or very little) labor charge. As if a water pump goes out, they needed to disassemble the same items as a timing belt, so it was cheaper insurance..
 
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Changing the timing belt is quite involving, here is a YouTube video of someone changing the timing belt of an MDX but the engine is virtually the same with that of the Honda Pilot/Passport/Ridgeline.

Yes, I have changed timing belts before, but no longer do my own work since I'm older now so I am left with paying the shop.
 

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V6 with 280hp! No turbos or cvt transmission to worry about!
I had planned to buy a CR-V but my salesperson convinced me to test drive a Passport and I must say I liked it much better. Going back with my wife tomorrow morning and if we both agree we could be new Passport owners tomorrow. It is a 2020 EX-L in white.

So I'm looking at buying a 2020 Passport that has about 41k miles. Based on my research, I could be looking at changing the timing belt as soon as 60k miles, which for me will be about this time next year (I drive 18k - 20k miles a year). Has anyone already had to change the timing belt on one of these? Just wondering what you paid. Did you use the dealer or an independent shop?

(*I sure wish Honda would ditch the belts and put chains in all their engines.)

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What are you paying before tax and fees for the vehicle?
 

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Well....maybe nothing. Turns out my lovely wife is not as fond of the Passport as I am...so we are actually looking at another option now.
I can understand your wife. They are rather homely looking. I recently unloaded one of my Passports for an RDX.
It has better styling, more luxury, better handling and just more upscale than the Passport for not all that much more money. (better warranty too)
 

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I can understand your wife. They are rather homely looking. I recently unloaded one of my Passports for an RDX.
It has better styling, more luxury, better handling and just more upscale than the Passport for not all that much more money. (better warranty too)
I have an RDX on my list but my wife is enamored with a BMW X5. It's very nice, no doubt about it, but it will no doubt be more expensive in pretty much every conceivable way. The Passport I've been looking at come with a lifetime powertrain warranty. Hard to beat that.

One thing I am confused about for the Passport...everything I've read suggests the timing belt would be due at 60k miles. When I tried to negotiate to have that at least partially covered, I was told it wouldn't be due until 100k miles. What is right?
 

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One thing I am confused about for the Passport...everything I've read suggests the timing belt would be due at 60k miles. When I tried to negotiate to have that at least partially covered, I was told it wouldn't be due until 100k miles. What is right?
Timing belt replacement is 105,000 miles or at seven years, whichever arrives first. However, Honda advises to change the timing belt at 60,000 miles if you drive in a high temperature (over 110°F) or low temperature (below -20°F) area.
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Thanks. We tried to find that in the owners manual but didn't come across it. Hard to say what they mean by "drive regularly" under - 20°F. Here in Minnesota we probably have only a handful of days that cold. And we would be keeping the car in a heated garage overnight. I would guess the maintenance minder keeps track of all that?
 

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Welcome @leftoverture The Passport is great especially for the Minnesota winters, if there is only one vehicle to drive in a blizzard, for me it would be the Passport. Also, the heated seats are a super plus for those super cold days.
 

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I have an RDX on my list but my wife is enamored with a BMW X5. It's very nice, no doubt about it, but it will no doubt be more expensive in pretty much every conceivable way. The Passport I've been looking at come with a lifetime powertrain warranty. Hard to beat that.

One thing I am confused about for the Passport...everything I've read suggests the timing belt would be due at 60k miles. When I tried to negotiate to have that at least partially covered, I was told it wouldn't be due until 100k miles. What is right?
It's a hands down no brainer. Get the X5. If you've not owned a BMW, you have to try it. The driving dynamics are fantastic. You're right, it will be more expensive in most ways but, worth the experience. The Passport is a common mainstream class crossover, the RDX is a premium class crossover but, the BMW X5 is a true luxury class crossover.
 

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Well....maybe nothing. Turns out my lovely wife is not as fond of the Passport as I am...so we are actually looking at another option now.
From a looks and technology stand point I agree somewhat. To me the look of the exterior could use some updating but overall I think it looks pretty good, especially the rear with the duel pipes and the front with the grill. We were also on the fence but here are the deciding factors for my wife to purchase two 2021 passports:
The pp overall height
V6 at 280hp and no worries with turbos
9 speed transmission with no worries of a cvt
Off road capabilities
Fit our price range
And finally the Honda reputation
I do however understand your decision to go with another vehicle. Our other choice was the Lexus but did not want to spend that much. I use to own a BMW 328i and their suv's rock but way out of our price range!
Good luck finding your vehicle!
 

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Well, we already own a BMW 228i convertible, so I guess you could say we are initiated to the brand. And the car we will be trading in is a Lincoln MKZ, which is pretty posh yet still a decent driving car. There is no doubt the X5 has better materials, especially inside, it definitely feels more upscale. But, interestingly, it really doesn't exceed the Passport EX-L in feature content or comfort. My wife says the Passport reminds her of an old Chevy Astro van, and she thinks it seems cheap inside. I'm probably not all that picky about that stuff and I actually like the captains chairs. Is the X5 more fun to drive? Yea, maybe a little, but both are SUVs, not sports cars. At least I will have the 228 for fun. But at my age, it is getting harder to get up out of cars that are so low to the ground so something higher works for me. I'm a car guy, so the BMW definitely has the edge from a passion standpoint.
 

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Well, we already own a BMW 228i convertible, so I guess you could say we are initiated to the brand. And the car we will be trading in is a Lincoln MKZ, which is pretty posh yet still a decent driving car. There is no doubt the X5 has better materials, especially inside, it definitely feels more upscale. But, interestingly, it really doesn't exceed the Passport EX-L in feature content or comfort. My wife says the Passport reminds her of an old Chevy Astro van, and she thinks it seems cheap inside. I'm probably not all that picky about that stuff and I actually like the captains chairs. Is the X5 more fun to drive? Yea, maybe a little, but both are SUVs, not sports cars. At least I will have the 228 for fun. But at my age, it is getting harder to get up out of cars that are so low to the ground so something higher works for me. I'm a car guy, so the BMW definitely has the edge from a passion standpoint.
I had a few BMW’s and there were nice, but when they older they get expensive. I wasn’t really impressed and I hated the run flat tires and the ridiculous price for maintaining it. Everything they make is turbo and I just like a non turbo V6. I’m older now and I’d rather spend my money on nice vacations and dining out, not deprecating money pits.
 

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I had a few BMW’s and there were nice, but when they older they get expensive. I wasn’t really impressed and I hated the run flat tires and the ridiculous price for maintaining it. Everything they make is turbo and I just like a non turbo V6. I’m older now and I’d rather spend my money on nice vacations and dining out, not deprecating money pits.
Funny😆 I too am older and think the opposite. I prefer the turbo for the low end torque and I prefer the depreciating money pits (as you refer to a vehicle) over vacations and eating out. When you return from a vacation which is usually rather expensive, you have nothing but a few memories which aren't always positive and the same goes with dining out.
At least when you purchase a vehicle you still have something of value to enjoy versus a short lived vacation memory or that dining experience you'll not remember by the following week.
 
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