[esto70]

Hi! I have a brand new Passport and I'm super excited! It's my first Honda and I'm relatively new to the maintenance minder game... although I'm not completely unfamiliar with the concept, either. I'm wondering if I messed up the timing of my maintenance minder, can you help?

My sales person told me that it had a maintenance minder that would tell me when service was due. I was going through all the menus and sytem settings on the new passport getting everything set up. I noticed that my oil life was at 100% but the screen was showing code A, which I know is an oil and filter change. It didn't seem right that I would need an oil change at 200 miles, so I went ahead and reset it. As soon as I reset it, code B showed up. So reset it again, and now I'm back to code A. So...what? I'm super confused!

A couple questions:

1. Does the maintenance minder always show code A or B? That seems strange if true.

2. When I reset the maintenance minder (twice!) at 200 miles, did I mess it up? Is it going to tell me that I need all services due 15,000-20,000 miles sooner than needed?

3. Is there a way I can reset the entire system so that it thinks I'm still working my way towards oil change #1?

Thanks for your help!

Mike

 

[elder prep]

Mike, most if not all of your questions are answered in your owner's manual. It's available on-line or in paper form, if you order it.

 

[scooter1]

The MM shows what will be needed at the next service. A or B. Do not reset the MM until the service is complete. The dash will light with a wrench icon when the oil percentage gets below ~30%. That meand the service is coming due. Honda recommends service at 15-30%. Please make sure you familiarize yourself with the description of the MM in your owner's guide.

 

[elder prep]

As scooter1 suggested Mike, stop messing with the MM, the service staff will do the resetting at the completion of a service interval.

 

[esto70]

Telling me to read the manual (which I did in its entirety) does not specifically address my questions. And telling me to stop messing with the MM (since it's too late for that) doesn't really help, either.

So...can anyone tell me, considering I already reset the MM twice when I shouldn't have, what effect that will have on my future maintenance schedule?

 

[scooter1]

Telling me to read the manual (which I did in its entirety) does not specifically address my questions. And telling me to stop messing with the MM (since it's too late for that) doesn't really help, either.

So...can anyone tell me, considering I already reset the MM twice when I shouldn't have, what effect that will have on my future maintenance schedule?

It wont.

 

[nieuport17]

Telling me to read the manual (which I did in its entirety) does not specifically address my questions. And telling me to stop messing with the MM (since it's too late for that) doesn't really help, either.

So...can anyone tell me, considering I already reset the MM twice when I shouldn't have, what effect that will have on my future maintenance schedule?

Since you reset it at 200 miles, nothing will be affected.
I do my own service, so I reset them myself. You don't need service guy to do it.

 

[storm303]

Telling me to read the manual (which I did in its entirety) does not specifically address my questions. And telling me to stop messing with the MM (since it's too late for that) doesn't really help, either.

So...can anyone tell me, considering I already reset the MM twice when I shouldn't have, what effect that will have on my future maintenance schedule?

You have only cleared any current active reminder as far as I know, so if you went back to A with 100% life, you are off by +200 miles at the worst when you reset.

The system should use total mileage and the last service mileage to determine necessary service code. A and B are main codes for: the oil change, and oil change + inspection and other preventative maintenance items. The system also looks at driving variables to vary the interval up or down (oil life is not an exact mileage for example). A number 1-6 might show up with the letter in the future for other preventative maintenance services like fluid change or inspection items that relate to that mileage, adjusted for conditions in which you drove the car.

In short, you may have thrown off one oil change by a few hundred miles, just get it early before 10% remaining and you should be fine, and then let the system do what it does in future. If you do your own maintenance, reset only when maintenance is done.

 

[esto70]

Thanks for the help!

 

[ProdGirl]

Since you reset it at 200 miles, nothing will be affected.
I do my own service, so I reset them myself. You don't need service guy to do it.

I was just going to say the same thing. Your first maintenance will be an oil change that you’ll do about 4500 miles. If you end up being offset by 200 miles, it will not harm anything.

 

[Wrascal]

I was just going to say the same thing. Your first maintenance will be an oil change that you’ll do about 4500 miles. If you end up being offset by 200 miles, it will not harm anything.

That sounds way too soon based on my past experiences with Honda maint. minder. Tomorrow I'm having my first service on the new Ody; now over 9,000 miles - and the A1 notice just turned on yesterday. I'd wait a bit longer but the dealer Finally received the wireless phone charger that was ordered (paid for) two months ago.

 

[MattyNice]

I agree with everyone else. You started the algorithm over to start at 200 miles for the oiI. I don’t see 200 miles making any difference in that interval. Now, whether you forwarded through the first two services and your air filter, trans, etc., services pop up early, that may be a reality.

 

[ls973800]

Code "A" is actually an oil change only, not an oil change and filter. Code "B" is an oil change and oil filter. Honda only calls for an oil filter every other oil change according to the MM. For the relatively small cost of an oil filter, I always replace it at every oil change.

AN "A 1" is an oil change and tire rotation.

 

[storm303]

I agree with everyone else. You started the algorithm over to start at 200 miles for the oiI. I don’t see 200 miles making any difference in that interval. Now, whether you forwarded through the first two services and your air filter, trans, etc., services pop up early, that may be a reality.

Interesting point and possibility.....I think but cannot confirm 100%, that each interval for major maintenance items must be "greater than" some minimum number of total vehicle miles, adjusted up or down for driving conditions during those miles. I think it very unlikely the system does not look at both total mileage as well as last service mileage or else accidental resets like this would have been causing missed maintenance on many vehicles. With the doubt though, I think I would call the dealer.

 

[esto70]

I appreciate the comments from everyone. I put myself in an interesting dilemma (possibly), which is why I posted in here. I would hope the MM would look at total miles/hours driven and use that to calculate future services. But I would have no way on knowing that short of speaking with a Honda engineer.

I actually stopped by and asked my dealer yesterday. The service writer I spoke with basically had no clue. He then went on to tell me that THEY recommend NOT following the MM for service. He then whipped out a chart that basically listed all of the services due every 5000 miles. That really makes me mad and causes me to question whether I want to take me vehicle there for service.

 

[MattyNice]

You may have to call Honda directly to get the answer. If you do, post up what they say as I’m very curious. This situation has never even crossed my mind. As for the dealer, of course they don’t want you to follow the MM...Although everyone has an opinion on this..

 

[Mt.Man]

Code "A" is actually an oil change only, not an oil change and filter. Code "B" is an oil change and oil filter. Honda only calls for an oil filter every other oil change according to the MM. For the relatively small cost of an oil filter, I always replace it at every oil change.

AN "A 1" is an oil change and tire rotation.

If you have AWD and you avg 8k miles on oil changes, your second oil change should be a B16 around 15k miles. B16 is rear differential fluid change. Both of mine popped up around 18k miles, so be looking for that code to know if your schedule has been altered.

 

[Mt.Man]

I actually stopped by and asked my dealer yesterday. The service writer I spoke with basically had no clue. He then went on to tell me that THEY recommend NOT following the MM for service. He then whipped out a chart that basically listed all of the services due every 5000 miles. That really makes me mad and causes me to question whether I want to take me vehicle there for service.

Early servicing is a money maker for them. If they were paying the dime, they would have you follow the maintenance minder.

 

[SoundsGood]

If they were paying the dime, they would have you follow the maintenance minder.

So true.

 

[58HUSTLER]

So true.

I don't know about the rest of you but I'd have a real problem with a dealer telling me not to follow the MM system. If that ever happens to me I'm going to call Honda Corp and ask them why bother to build it into their vehicles. Something tells me it's just a dealer trying to increase the profit margin.