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I saw and liked how REALM mounted a full-size spare tire vertically in his cargo area (post 5).

Cilles and a few others also discussed this topic. I really wanted to have a full size matching spare, because well, that’s normal. The craziness of donut tires must stop! I’ve had enough flats (that couldn’t be repaired) that it’s worth it to have the peace of mind of a normal tire. I bought 18” KMC wheels with 30.5” OD 265/60R18 Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 and laid the fifth down flat for a while and put stuff in the middle of the tire and on top of it and it’s fine, but for giggles, I thought I’d try a vertical option.

So, I took REALM’s idea, but did it with a twist, err bend. I really didn’t want to screw into or bolt through the cargo floor, so I bought a few things at Home Depot: a 36” piece of flat steel stock (pretty sure it’s 1/8” thick - will confirm), some threaded rod (the size of the wheel studs), a lock washer and nut for the rod, some stubby carriage bolts, and a piece of plywood. I made this:

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I bent the metal by using a small torch to gently heat it up at the bending areas and then just bent it with my raw manly strength (it wasn’t hard).

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I then put a piece of yoga mat down on top of my 4Knines Multi-Function Split Cargo Area Liner and under the plywood base, to keep the tire / stabilizer from sliding during corners / evasive maneuvers. I finished off the “installation” with a rubber tire wedge shoved against the back to hold it even better (from moving during that brisk Passport acceleration 😆). It works. I think I’m into it $23, since I already had a torch, an old yoga mat, and a rubber wheel chock. I like how I now have a tall vertical space between the left rear window/wheelwell and the tire to stash stuff that’s easy to grab from the driver’s side rear passenger door. I can store “shoveables” (coats/hats/blankets) and just reach back there to grab them without opening the rear hatch. I can also put a camp chair in that spot.

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Anyway, I lined it all up, used a fine point marker through a bolt hole to put a dot to mark the center of my hole, then drilled it (start really small if using a hand drill, then incrementally work your way up with the bit sizes to the final hole size - its thick steel and a large hole). I’ll post some specifics when I find the receipt and packaging tomorrow.

Obviously, there’s no need for the vertical support to be as tall as I’ve left it, but I didn’t feel like it was worth using a hacksaw on for 5 minutes just to cut off 5 inches. These nuts on the left are just tightened against each other with some blue threadlocker. The nut you undo to remove the tire /wheel that needs a lock washer is on the right side (facing the center of the vehicle). If you don’t use a lock washer, it WILL come loose. You can use a nut after the lock washer to secure it all into place (and keep a wrench in the vehicle) or grab a large wing nut if you can find one and don’t worry about a wrench.

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If I had welding skills or a shop with a vise (I literally did all of this in the Home Depot parking lot with some lock pliers and a pair of work gloves), I might go a little heavier-duty with the steel, but it’s definitely working (it’s been in the back like this for 5 months now) and will never break, but it does move around a little. That’s what the rubber wheel chock helps with (immensely). Having a cargo organizer and a stroller in the back all the time do help keep it locked down from sliding when I drive the Passport like I used to drive my Porsche Macan 🫣 Anyway, maybe this will help someone.
 

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Good job Sir. Not my cup of tea, yet it's nice to see you were able to quickly fabricate something that is simple and works for your needs.
 

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Good job Sir. Not my cup of tea, yet it's nice to see you were able to quickly fabricate something that is simple and works for your needs.
It ain’t my cup of tea, either. It’s pretty lame that the most off-road oriented Honda ever made doesn’t have a full-size spare either under the loadspace or outside under the vehicle (between the rear wheels like so many other SUVs and trucks). They just really don’t get it. If you get a flat 700 miles from home on a camping / road trip - especially if driving off-hwy like they market it - a skinny and smaller OD donut ain’t going to cut it.

Anyway, hate that I had to resort to this, but I don’t want it hanging off the back of the vehicle on a dedicated spare carrier - for looks, practically, and $$ reasons. At least it’s no longer taking up a bunch of horizontal space of the cargo floor. That actually wasn’t a big deal to me, but wife didn’t like it and it did make it difficult to put the stroller in.

Hey, sweet bike. I’ve got a Norden 901!
 

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That Nordic is a nice one. I have a Super Tenere and Beta 520RS.
 

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Can’t tell from the photos but for your own safety tie that tire down with a ratchet strap. God forbid but in a accident that spare will kill you. You did a great job fabricating but it needs to be secured so I won’t hurt you or your passengers.
 

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Can’t tell from the photos but for your own safety tie that tire down with a ratchet strap. God forbid but in a accident that spare will kill you. You did a great job fabricating but it needs to be secured so I won’t hurt you or your passengers.
I believe it is secured by a bolt through the lug hole.
 

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I believe it is secured by a bolt through the lug hole.
I saw that but the whole thing becomes a deadly projectile in a crash. That’s a lot of weight and it can definitely kill or cripple. Years ago I was in a terrible accident in my work van and it had a steal partition separating the cargo area from the passenger compartment. Well a 6 foot ladder hit that steel petition and made it touch the dashboard. I was only going 30 mph. If that partition wasn’t there I would be dead. Every since I pay particular attention to loose objects in my vehicle. Just a FYI. Stay safe everyone.
 

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Looks rather dangerous having heavy object rolling around inside the car. Could be potential projectile during an accident.
I would personally invest the hitch spare tire holder if having a full size spare is a must.
Something like this:
 

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I saw that but the whole thing becomes a deadly projectile in a crash. That’s a lot of weight and it can definitely kill or cripple. Years ago I was in a terrible accident in my work van and it had a steal partition separating the cargo area from the passenger compartment. Well a 6 foot ladder hit that steel petition and made it touch the dashboard. I was only going 30 mph. If that partition wasn’t there I would be dead. Every since I pay particular attention to loose objects in my vehicle. Just a FYI. Stay safe everyone.
Guys, I know one could install a cage between the cargo area and the rear seat back to be extra safe, but this is a 30 inch plus tire that is wedged to the backseat with a rubber wheel chock and the opening above the seat between the headrests is 16.5” x 23” - if anything is going to fly and hit me in the back of the head in a rollover, it’s not going to be that. It won’t fit. It’s a bag of dog treats or my groceries or my retractable dog leash or my water bottle that I’m worried about. Not the wheel.
 

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Guys, I know one could install a cage between the cargo area and the rear seat back to be extra safe, but this is a 30 inch plus tire that is wedged to the backseat with a rubber wheel chock and the opening above the seat between the headrests is 16.5” x 23” - if anything is going to fly and hit me in the back of the head in a rollover, it’s not going to be that. It won’t fit. It’s a bag of dog treats or my groceries or my retractable dog leash or my water bottle that I’m worried about. Not the wheel.
The back seat folds down. If the seat releases in an accident you’re in trouble. But it your car and your life.🙏
 

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The back seat folds down. If the seat releases in an accident you’re in trouble. But it your car and your life.🙏
The plywood base has a cargo bin and dog stroller on top, also holding it all in place. Like I said, it’s the other 30 things in the car that are way more of a concern, but I’m not going to be able to avoid bringing anything, ever. If someone wanted to do what I’ve done, but be extra safe, there’s 3 options A) drill a hole in the loadspace floor and pass a bolt through it and the plywood to prevent uplift, B) make the plywood even larger (so the footprint is the size of the entire loadspace, if desired), or C) add a cargo divider rack. Or all 3. Really shameful we have to go to this effort or throw it on the roof or buy an expensive rear bumper tire carrier just to haul a full size tire around. It’s so basic. All Honda had to do was make the under-floor area deep enough to accommodate a full size tire.
 
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