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Disabling VCM on 2022 Passport Trailsports

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Anyone installed the VCMTUNER - Disable VCM / ECO for Honda Odyssey, Pilot, Accord & More. yet on their 2022 Passport Trailsports?

Would love to hear tips and/or experiences you had installling and tuning it after.

Thanks in advance.
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Not sure, but they seem to have an error in there sales pitch:

QUOTE: "Hot climates like Phoenix and Northern California can utilize settings 50-60 during the summer months."

Probably meant to say Southern...
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Modern workers.

Zero attention to detail/editing/accuracy/facts.
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Find VCM Delete that you do not have to change out a wire/chip based on weather/temp
Looks like a lame sales pitch. Digging deeper on the functionality, it splices into the harness that communicates with the ECU to show reduced engine temperatures on the dash. Your dash temperatures will show false readings indicating a colder than actual temperature. Cheap crimped blade connectors not even weatherproof. Variable resistor circuit is not going to last. This is a cobbled up piece of junk.

LMAO!! Using lawsuits, oil consumption, could spark plugs and and torque converter failures as a way to fear buyers into getting one of these. Not a snowballs chance in hell I would even consider risking this on my vehicle.
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Place your trust in the Honda engineer's, perform proper vehicle maintenance and enjoy the ride of many miles.
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Older versions (Homemade/VCM Muzzler, VCM Tuner) required you to manually change a resistor/plug, depending on the Season of the year.

For about 5 years, after 2008, Honda's VCM system was so bad that people started experimenting and would cut a wire and install a resistor for Spring/Summer and change the resistor for Winter and Fall. Someone started selling them and turned it into a business. As the business grew, a model that automatically changed its resistor range was developed.

I was bothered by the clunking, caused by Honda's VCM system, when I would get off the Interstate and have to drive in city traffic. My OEM system would hunt for the correct number of cylinders, clunking all the way.

I didn't like Honda's idle stop feature either and would push the optional button, by the shift buttons to disable it.
If Honda would only offer a disable button for their VCM System, but that would effect their MPG rating estimate, which they have to post on the window stickers.
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These new engines don't have VCM issues.
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These new engines don't have VCM issues.
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These new engines don't have VCM issues ..... YET ....
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Anyone installed the VCMTUNER - Disable VCM / ECO for Honda Odyssey, Pilot, Accord & More. yet on their 2022 Passport Trailsports?

Would love to hear tips and/or experiences you had installling and tuning it after.

Thanks in advance.
If deactivating the VCM makes you sleep better at night then get it. It's a simple install and there are scores of installation videos and testimonies online to help. Talking with experienced but independent local automobile mechanics is also a good idea, they can give you more qualified opinion than you can find online.

Will installing the VCMTUNER do any damage to your Passport? I can't imagine how if it's installed as directed, it's not changing anything but just tricking the engine to always continue using the full set of cylinders.
Do you even need it considering the perception that Honda has now gotten the deactivation tuning right and the claim of the active engine bushings are absorbing whatever vibrations remains? Maybe, maybe not. I've owned only Honda and Acura cars since I bought my 1999 Accord and I'm a member of several other Honda/Acura forums so I know that the makers of the VCMTUNER responded to the high demand for anti VCM measures in the Honda community. Despite the perception that's it's no longer needed there still strong demand for the VCMTUNERII in the Honda/Acura community and you actually have to join a waiting list before you can buy one. That means a lot of people in the Honda/Acura community are still worried about Honda's cylinder deactivation. I won't pretend to know better than them so I can't blame them...neither can I blame the folks who are disgusted by the VCMTUNER idea.

My wife prefers her cars completely stock and I'm not particularly interested in unnecessary modifications either but I installed the VCMTUNERII in her 2020 Passport Touring because I believe when we bought a V6 we should always have a V6. I took an informal poll here and several people reported that they have it installed and no error to report, I also talked with a local tech who I take my out of warranty Honda vehicles to and he said he's seen lots of it under the hood but no damage as a result of it so I went ahead and did the install and we have had no issue since then. I'm not home a lot and my wife has taken her Passport to our local dealer a couple of times without removing the VCMTUNERII but no one scolded her or even said anything.


I know Honda means well with it's fuel saving efforts but I'm leery of government mandated measures especially when those measures are implemented in a way to bridle long established science like the V6/V8/V12 combustion system. When cylinder deactivation comes on, only one set of cylinders is always deactivated and only one set is always working...how does that affect even wearing of the system?

There is strong online support for hobbling Honda's VCM system, there is also strong opposition. But one lesson I took to heart is the fact that there was also strong opposition to disabling the Honda Idle Stop System either with a gadget or by just pressing the button, many across Honda/Acura communities are of the opinion - "Just leave it on - The modern engine can handle it, the battery can handle it, the starter can handle it, they are all made extra tough for this...etc.", but we consumers don't have Honda's feedback data on these systems, the fact that Honda recently increased the warranty coverage of the starter motor and valve adjustments and it also released an update to stop the system becoming a problem after eight years of suspicion and complaints from owners was somewhat telling for me. It might just be generosity, it might also be because Honda has data that those two engine sections are being reported to be failing at a high rate so it's heading off a future class action lawsuit.


With that being said, I'm of the opinion that turning off electronic nannies and electronic limitations in a car is a personal decision, so to each his own.
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Agreed.
I have been pretty loyal to Honda, been driving them for a long time. I had a 2009 Pilot that I bought new and it was maintained very well and the engine bit the dust at 128k. The cams were damaged and I did the oil every 5k. That Vcm system was bad and it had a major vibration from day one that I complained about and they said it was normal. I don’t feel it in my Passport, I’m on the fence about installing a Vcm muzzler. I have done some research and I haven’t seen any real problems with newer Pilots and Passports.
My Passport is the 3rd Honda V6 in my family with VCM on it. The first 2 (2010 & 2014 Odysseys) both started developing Cylinder 3 issues and check engine lights at about 75K miles. The symptoms we were experiencing matched perfectly to the early signals of the V6 engine developing issues (carbon build up in Cyl 3) due to the VCM. Put the VCMuzzlers on both of those vans, reset the check engine codes, and tens of thousands of miles later neither have had an issue since. It was the first thing I ordered and installed once I got my Passport. Runs better and now have peace of mind going forward.
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My Passport is the 3rd Honda V6 in my family with VCM on it. The first 2 (2010 & 2014 Odysseys) both started developing Cylinder 3 issues and check engine lights at about 75K miles. The symptoms we were experiencing matched perfectly to the early signals of the V6 engine developing issues (carbon build up in Cyl 3) due to the VCM. Put the VCMuzzlers on both of those vans, reset the check engine codes, and tens of thousands of miles later neither have had an issue since. It was the first thing I ordered and installed once I got my Passport. Runs better and now have peace of mind going forward.
Is it safe to assume that the 2019-2021 Passports are the same as the "mid-cycle" refresh (2022-2023) engines? Will be putting a VCM dis-able device on our 2021 PP EX-L as well, just haven't driven it much and I want to have the before and after experience. would be comparing this to our de-VCM'd Odyssey from 2009 that drives much, much peppier! no more of those engine mounts getting used and strange vibrations.
Had '08 and '13 Accords with some serious VCM issues. My 2019 Passport has had the VCM Tuner II installed for 3 years now and zero issues. Have left it installed when it's gone in for service and zero issues with the service department. (Same goes for the Idle Stopper device installed).
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Will be doing the Idle Stopper and Smart VCM in a few weeks
Had '08 and '13 Accords with some serious VCM issues. My 2019 Passport has had the VCM Tuner II installed for 3 years now and zero issues. Have left it installed when it's gone in for service and zero issues with the service department. (Same goes for the Idle Stopper device installed).
I want to buy one, but not sure where to buy it from.
LINK Get the $139 one that automatically adjusts to Seasonal Temp changes.
A pair of 60 degree needle nosed pliers will make accessing the plugs easy.
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You would have thought they would have at least allowed the exhaust valves to stay open so the pistons could breath.
generosity
hardly believable in that by looking on the cheapest speakers in 50k car ))
exhaust valves to stay open
that could give more problems than benefits
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