[joecal01]

After my Passport was in for service and I was given a '19 Honda Accord loaner, I've realized the Passport shift from Reverse to Drive has quite a delay in it.

I back out of my driveway onto a sometimes busy street. When I do so in the Passport, there is a second or two delay for Drive to engage. The delay can be a little nerve racking with approaching traffic.

When I had the Accord, Drive engaged immediately.

Anyone else experience a delay going from Reverse to Drive?

 

[herothedog]

I’ve start to shift from reverse while still rolling. It is annoying but I think a characteristic of the 9 speed transaxle.

 

[SoundsGood]

I've noticed this delay as well.

 

[nieuport17]

It's slower than me shifting with a stick: Yes. It's 1-2 sec slow.

 

[stevenD]

I never noticed anything, but it could be I'm not in a hurry...

 

[tomupnorth]

It's slower than me shifting with a stick: Yes. It's 1-2 sec slow.

I am totally new to push-button shifts and computer control, our last new vehicle being from 2007. I have joked about learning this new "Starship Enterprise" and frankly am not certain yet how I feel about it, but this shifting does feel like slow-motion to me.

The OP has more experience than I do and so I am going to pay close attention regarding the possibility that this is "slower than normal" and potentially unsafe!

 

[TripleP]

I've noticed the delay and live on a somewhat busy street too, which is why I back onto my driveway and into the garage.

 

[danleaps]

I have noticed the delay as well. Smith driving principles rule so I always try to back in when parking to reduce the possibility of a backing accident. For me the delay is livable. Btw coming up on 30 days and love my Passport so far. Happy to be back in a Honda!

 

[TROPSSAP]

Yes, this delay seems to be common judging by all the responses, I have noticed it even more pronounced when cold first thing in the morning...I back out of my driveway and when I push reverse, I can count to three sometimes before it finally engages, an easy 2 seconds after pushing the drive button and it finally grabs. It takes some getting used to I guess.

 

[SoundsGood]

I back out of my driveway and when I push reverse, I can count to three sometimes before it finally engages, an easy 2 seconds after pushing the drive button and it finally grabs.

Ditto here.

 

[WayneP]

Triple Ditto ^^^^^^. This is the only thing I dislike on my Passport. It is extremely frustrating when you back onto a busy street and then try to drive away quickly.

 

[herothedog]

At 39:35 demonstrates the PP shifting into reverse, has to apply two braking clutches and a dogear clutch.

From second gear, both the A and F dog clutches and the C braking clutch transition to
reverse with the F dog clutch and B and D clutches applied. So A, B, C, D (? I think) have to change from 2nd to reverse.

The A and F dog clutches are hydraulic, not sure about the rest of the clutches.

But with a cold transmission with all the fluids settled this might be why it takes a moment or two to shift.

I mostly notice the problem after the PP has sat for a while (although usually, it sits for a while I have noticed a couple of occasions where it was quick to shift from R to D or vice-versa).

 

[Drummer]

Thank heaven for this post - I was starting to think I was becoming (more) impatient with my surroundings. Yes, 2 second delay and something of a safety concern as stated above when backing onto a street.

 

[elder prep]

I'm currently watching the video provided by herothe dog and even halfway through the video, I'm very impressed with the engineering that went into the ZF 9 transmission. Also, I too, noticed the 2 second or so delay in the shift time, and after watching the rest of the video will understand why.

 

[herothedog]

I'm currently watching the video provided by herothedog and even halfway through the video, I'm very impressed with the engineering that went into the ZF 9 transmission. Also, I too, noticed the 2 second or so delay in the shift time, and after watching the rest of the video will understand why.

In contrast, my 2018 Volvo XC60 used an AISIN 8 speed that works in a similar manner and it was a smoking awesome transmission, very fast, it felt much faster than the DSG 7 speed in the Audi S4 I had previously. Here is a u-tube from the same guy on how it worked (not sure if it is the exact model, I think maybe not but close).

BUT, the Volvo cost almost 2X the Passport (cheaper to insure though... wtf?).

 

[Cali 08]

Yep, i’m with everybody else on this. The delay is super annoying, but you can live with it I guess. I had an extremely close call with an automatic gate and if I wasn’t going uphill having momentum take me back it would have hit me because I couldn’t reverse fast enough. Got lucky.

 

[Mikebones]

It's one of the first things I noticed after I purchased my Passport.

 

[Dro1984]

I too have noticed this and I do live off a busy main road... you have to allow for the slow shift when backing out. I tend to pull forward out of driveway when ever possible to eliminate this situation. It does take patience.

 

[TROPSSAP]

It's amazing how even 1 or 2 seconds can have such a noticeable impact on the perception of how fast or slow a vehicle responds in various situations. I have owned several manual transmission vehicles over the years as well...I'm trying to remember how many seconds it took to go from reverse to 1st gear and vice versa, it seems to me it took a couple of seconds at least, maybe 3 on some cars, I didn't complain about it then so I don't know why it bothers me now. lol

 

[Dro1984]

It doesn't take that long in a manual if you are doing the "rowing" ... 3 secs? One thousand one.... one thousand two... one thousand 3.... go! I'd be going on the count of 2... For an Automatic... it's very slow... and when the vehicle is cold it's even slower to shift.