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I am interested in purchasing and having a dash cam installed in my Passport. Any recommendations or comments? Is Best Buy worth considering? Thanks!
 

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I have a Thinkware F750 in each of my other vehicles . Thinkware replaced it with F800 and I just ordered one from Best Buy - you will have to buy the hard wire kit for $29.99 but in my opinion, they are the best option for concealed dash cam ( behind the Rear view Mirror) and 1080p quality. It includes GPS so you can pull your entire route data / speed from the SD card if necessary. There is no video screen so you will have to hook up to it's internal wifi to watch or download videos to your tablet/ phone or remove the Micro SD card. they run $299.00 but will go on sale for $229.00 every few weeks ( they were on sale last week) Best buy will install for $49.99 or you can do it yourself- it's simple. I gave my oldest child the F800 + installation last Christmas for his Civic ( he's driving around Palo Alto / San Francisco)

For what it's worth, they also offer a rear window camera that hooks up to the primary, front-facing unit, , but I have yet to explore that option.

My F800 will be here Tuesday so I will know how it tucks up against the Honda sense camera package later in the week.

I highly recommend having some sort of dash cam. I am in the Transportation / Insurance industry and have recommended to all of my friends and family. Just so you know, my Brother in law was involved in an accident that rendered him a Quad a few years back. He did not have the dash cam installed at the time, and was not able to show that the other vehicle came over the rise in his lane of travel ( across the center line) and forced him off the roadway causing him to roll his truck. About a year later his wife ( my sister-in-law) was involved in an accident where the other vehicle ran the stop sign and struck her and spun her around and totaled out their wheel chair accessible van-- they still didn't have the dash cam installed. Finally they have one in all of their vehicles. They are not "get out of Jail free cards" they will record everything, and they do not give you the ability to drive anyway you want, but in certain circumstances, they can be very beneficial.

There are a lot of Dash-cams out there, but this is my recommendation ( some guy on a forum) for what it's worth. Good luck and let us know what you decide. I'll try to send a photo of my F750 in the Ridgeline and what the F800 looks like before installed in my Wife's Passport.
 

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I have a Thinkware F750 in each of my other vehicles . Thinkware replaced it with F800 and I just ordered one from Best Buy - you will have to buy the hard wire kit for $29.99 but in my opinion, they are the best option for concealed dash cam ( behind the Rear view Mirror) and 1080p quality. It includes GPS so you can pull your entire route data / speed from the SD card if necessary. There is no video screen so you will have to hook up to it's internal wifi to watch or download videos to your tablet/ phone or remove the Micro SD card. they run $299.00 but will go on sale for $229.00 every few weeks ( they were on sale last week) Best buy will install for $49.99 or you can do it yourself- it's simple. I gave my oldest child the F800 + installation last Christmas for his Civic ( he's driving around Palo Alto / San Francisco)

For what it's worth, they also offer a rear window camera that hooks up to the primary, front-facing unit, , but I have yet to explore that option.

My F800 will be here Tuesday so I will know how it tucks up against the Honda sense camera package later in the week.

I highly recommend having some sort of dash cam. I am in the Transportation / Insurance industry and have recommended to all of my friends and family. Just so you know, my Brother in law was involved in an accident that rendered him a Quad a few years back. He did not have the dash cam installed at the time, and was not able to show that the other vehicle came over the rise in his lane of travel ( across the center line) and forced him off the roadway causing him to roll his truck. About a year later his wife ( my sister-in-law) was involved in an accident where the other vehicle ran the stop sign and struck her and spun her around and totaled out their wheel chair accessible van-- they still didn't have the dash cam installed. Finally they have one in all of their vehicles. They are not "get out of Jail free cards" they will record everything, and they do not give you the ability to drive anyway you want, but in certain circumstances, they can be very beneficial.

There are a lot of Dash-cams out there, but this is my recommendation ( some guy on a forum) for what it's worth. Good luck and let us know what you decide. I'll try to send a photo of my F750 in the Ridgeline and what the F800 looks like before installed in my Wife's Passport.
Thank you for responding. So sorry about your brother. I'd rather have a dash cam and not need it than wish I had one. With my Passport Elite, I have my wheel locks. I don't want just anyone installing dash cam. Best Buy is fairly convenient. Still researching other options for someone experienced to install...
 

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I’m looking at the Garmin 55 for our red Elite that is on order. I have a friend with one of these and he is happy with it.
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Transferred a Thinkware 800 from my last car into the Passport with the hardwire kit so it works for continuous driving and parking modes. I was using the additional rear camera in the previous vehicle, but haven't installed it on the Passport yet. It's been solid so far and the image quality has been good both day and night.
 

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Transferred a Thinkware 800 from my last car into the Passport with the hardwire kit so it works for continuous driving and parking modes. I was using the additional rear camera in the previous vehicle, but haven't installed it on the Passport yet. It's been solid so far and the image quality has been good both day and night.
Thanks for sharing Ken!
 

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For reference, I hard wired into fuse 5 (Battery Wire) and 40 (Accessory Wire) and ran the cable up under the roof liner and down the A pilar. Plenty of space to snug a cable and the placement behind the mirror makes it unnoticeable while driving.
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I've got a Spytec A119 - it's a few years old and has worked perfectly. I've never needed it personally, but I've caught several other accidents.

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One tidbit I'd add for those looking for their first dash cam is making the decision whether to select a unit that records your speed. Since I think most people often drive a bit more than the speed limit, I decided against it. The last thing I'd want is to present proof in court that I was speeding - even if it was only one or two miles over.
 

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It's optional on the Thinkware. I have it turned on because I'm rarely going more than 5 over unless I'm passing and if I'm ever in a position where I need to use the footage as proof of something, the speed I was going is most likely irrelevant.
 

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It's optional on the Thinkware. I have it turned on because I'm rarely going more than 5 over unless I'm passing and if I'm ever in a position where I need to use the footage as proof of something, the speed I was going is most likely irrelevant.
"Well, Mr. KenA, I see you were traveling OVER the speed limit when you hit my client, Mrs. Grandma. Do you think if you were driving AT the speed limit, you might have had the time to stop?"

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Seriously, to each his own. My suggestion was just to make others aware of the options. Personally, I think the odds that I'd have to prove that I was driving no faster than the speed limit are smaller than having to explain why I was doing 5 over.
 

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I am interested in purchasing and having a dash cam installed in my Passport. Any recommendations or comments? Is Best Buy worth considering? Thanks!
Recently installed a Blacksys-CH200. This is a two channel (which means front and rear cameras) I got from Blackboxmycar. They matched Amazon's price. I did the install myself. Wasn't too bad, took me about 2 hours as I've never done an install before.. The tricky part was getting the rear panels off of the tailgate. There was a Youtube video of a guy showing how this is done. Really easy.

The really hard part was routing the rear cable through the tailgate conduit so that the camera mounts to the tail gate instead sitting on the rear dome light. My wife helped pushed the cable through after I tied it a thin balloon stick. The advantage is now I don't risk knocking the rear camera off when loading/unloading the stuff.

A couple of caveats:

1. Some states, like Washington, make it illegal to attach anything to the windshield that may obstruct vision. This law is really meant to stop radar detectors, but can be applied to cameras. So ideally you want something that could mount to the rear view mirror or to the plastic box that sits behind the rear view mirror (this is what I did).

2. In some states (Washington) it is illegal to record audio without consent. You might look for a unit that you can turn the audio recording on and off at will. The Blacksys does this.

3. If you hard wire the camera (which is what I did) parking mode is going to drain your battery. The Blacksys has a voltage cutoff, which works great, however....what has happened is that the battery never gets fully charged from short trips and the Parking Mode often doesn't last for more than a few minutes.

Ideally, you want a unit that you can either turn off the parking mode at will, or you can easily unplug the camera (which is what I do at home).

Blackboxmycar offers secondary batteries. But think about it. Eventually the batteries will drain down and you're arguably going to be in the same position as not having a battery. If you want to use parking mode at night, every night, every day, I don't think it's possible, but I could be wrong. I unplug it in my drive way and at work, and that usually allows me enough juice to use it during the day.

4. You might not get license plates at night. Take a look at this:

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Notice the license plate? It's essentially unreadable. I installed HID's on my Pilot, but the real problem is the angle. The SUV headlamps are higher up and hit cars right in the rear plate which, in the US, is ultra reflective. The only way around this is to drive around with the main lamps turned off.

5. Anyone can do the install, it's not super difficult, it just takes time and resolve. The hard parts were removing the plastic cover from the box behind the rear view mirror, routing the rear camera cable all the way along the back of the Pilot. Routing through to the tail gate (which you don't have to do), and then finding the right fuses.

6. There is no perfect dashcam. I reviewed many of the top of the line models and they all do some good things and some annoying things. Some thoughts:

- Many of the elite dashcams have cloud service. This is really meant for people who have a fleet of vehicles.
- Some dashcams have major issues in summer heat. Check customer reviews.
- Not all dashcams can accept the same size of storage cards. The Blacksys can take up to 256. I run a 128 and it gives me about 4 days of looped driving.
- A quality dashcam will separate normal looped recording from contact events from parking events. This is important because you may not realize you got hit in a parking lot for a day or two and you don't want that video overwritten by normal looping. The Blacksys and others will let you partition the storage so this doesn't happen.
- The one thing I love about the Blacksys is that I mounted the front with velcro, so I can take it with me on vacation and use it in a rental car using the cigarette adapter. I just carry some velcro with me and then attach it to the rental car. That makes it easy to simply pull out of the car at night or when I am parked (parking mode doesn't work on these camera's if you aren't had wired).

7. ADA (automated driver assist) functions are kind of pointless for modern cards. These include things like collision detection, lane departure, forward motion, red light detection. The problem is none of these are tied into your vehicle's systems. The only one I use is the forward motion (which tells me when the car in front of me starts moving) and it's probably only been useful 1 in 100 times it's gone off. The rest of these might be useful in a budget rental car

Some of the newer ones might tie into traffic camera's and maybe even police radar reported by other drivers. YMMV

You can go on Youtube and see video of all these camera's, so I won't post any here.
 

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"Well, Mr. KenA, I see you were traveling OVER the speed limit when you hit my client, Mrs. Grandma. Do you think if you were driving AT the speed limit, you might have had the time to stop?"

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Seriously, to each his own. My suggestion was just to make others aware of the options. Personally, I think the odds that I'd have to prove that I was driving no faster than the speed limit are smaller than having to explain why I was doing 5 over.
Indeed.
And it's funny you mention grandma cause my 300ZX TT was totaled by a sedan full of very apologetic blue hairs.
 

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I’m looking at the Garmin 55 for our red Elite that is on order. I have a friend with one of these and he is happy with it.
Mike

I'm planning on getting the Garmin 55 as well. I'm hoping someone here will have a good install video soon on where best to mount it on the windshield in relation to the rear view mirror.

Anyone have a suggestion on a cable to order to hard wire it to the fuse box? I think Garmin sells an official one but not sure if that comes with the fuse taps or not.
 

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I have to put a plug in for the dash/rear cam I installed, the Veckle dual-dash cam

It's fairly inexpensive, records full 1080p front and rear at 30fps, and 60fps if it's just the front camera. Night vision, GPS, time/date stamp, remote button for photos, file deletion protection, optional no audio recording, etc. I'm pretty happy with it.
 

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I had a Thinkware 800PRO installed with a 400gb SD card. Yes a samdisk 400gb ultra microSDXC UHS-1 sold by amazon. Work great and records in parking mode. You have to look really hard to see either camera. I have the record red light off.
 

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For anyone who has hard wired a camera into the fuse box, how do you remove the A pillar trim piece?
 
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