Connections for battery jumping

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darksky

Discussion Starter · Aug 2, 2019

My Passport requires some engine covers to be removed to get to the connections for battery jumping. Has anyone found a "fix" or way around having to remove these covers?

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19BCPDave

· #2 · Aug 2, 2019

darksky said:
My Passport requires some engine covers to be removed to get to the connections for battery jumping. Has anyone found a "fix" or way around having to remove these covers?

The plastic engine cover that sits on top of the plastic valve cover can easily be removed. The engine cover if you pop the hood and take a look, Has the Earth Dreams Logo on it. Pull up evenly on that cover and the cover will "Pop" out of the tabs its pressed into. I believe its 4 tabs with rubber grommets that hold the cover in place. Once the engine cover is removed you have more access to placing the jumper cables on the vehicle. The large intake snorkel is still in the way a bit, at least for me. But thats how youd access the battery for jumping the vehicle.

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darksky

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 2, 2019

Thanks 19BCPDave,
I'm aware about removing the cover but was wondering if anyone had come up with a work-around to avoid removing the cover. Getting to the positive battery terminal is possible without removing the "snorkel", so Honda should have put the remote ground connection more easily accessible.

19BCPDave

· #4 · Aug 2, 2019

darksky said:
Thanks 19BCPDave,
I'm aware about removing the cover but was wondering if anyone had come up with a work-around to avoid removing the cover. Getting to the positive battery terminal is possible without removing the "snorkel", so Honda should have put the remote ground connection more easily accessible.

Ahhh, I see... good question. I looked into this for a bit and can only think of possibly extending the ground terminal in a given direction. Ill admit , i haven't looked at the exact position or location of the ground terminal, but maybe this helps????

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Jermboy777

· #5 · Aug 2, 2019

If you’re jump starting your passport off someone else’s battery you won’t connect the ground to the battery you will connect it to chassis ground. If you are wanting to jump someone else using your passport then you would have to remove the engine cover to properly connect the cables to your passport battery.

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darksky

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 2, 2019

Jermboy777 said:
If you’re jump starting your passport off someone else’s battery you won’t connect the ground to the battery you will connect it to chassis ground. If you are wanting to jump someone else using your passport then you would have to remove the engine cover to properly connect the cables to your passport battery.

Yes, thanks for the reply. I am aware of this. There doesn't seem to be a good chassis ground connection available without removing the top engine cover as the manual states. It seems there must be an accessory or a way to entend the negative battery connection to avoid removing the cover(s). Hopefully I'll never need to have my battery jump started but just wondering in case it ever comes up.

Jermboy777

· #7 · Aug 3, 2019

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Just connect to the positive terminal and the engine mount. (You can see a ground wire connected to the mount)

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Beachbum07

· #8 · Mar 31, 2020 (Edited by Moderator)

I think I found a good solution to extend the battery connections to a convenient spot under the hood, in case you need to jumpstart your battery from another vehicle.

There are jumper cables that have quick disconnects called Anderson Plugs. One end has ring connectors. Connect the positive (red) cable to the positive battery terminal, and connect the ground (black) cable to either the engine block ground (if it’s close to the battery) or screw to a solid piece of the body frame. Then you would mount the other end with the Anderson Plug to a convenient spot in the engine compartment. Rubber caps are included for the Anderson Plugs to protect from the weather.

The other half of the jumper cables have the matching Anderson Plug on one end and the clamps on the other. Store this half in your trunk. When you need to jump your PP, connect the clamps to the other vehicle’s battery terminals, then connect the two Anderson Plugs together.

This will allow for a permanent installation of a cable under the hood in a convenient spot for jumping your PP without having to remove any covers, etc. Just keep in mind that this setup only allows another vehicle to jump your PP, and not vice versa. There’s probably an inline switch/splitter for the ground cable to direct it to the battery or the body ground. That would allow you to jump someone else’s battery.

If my recommendation is off in any way, please let me know and I will edit the post. Just some ideas I came up with to kick around.

Here’s a video of a guy doing the install, but not exactly in a clean way. He mounted his interior Anderson Plug to his bumper. ?Definitely not something to do on your PP.

Here’s an example of jumper cables with Anderson/quick connect plugs. The cable that connects to the PP’s battery is five feet long. Not sure about the quality of these cables, so if anyone finds better cables, please post a reply with a product link.

Anderson Plugs to crimp on your own cables. Again, not sure if these are the best to use. Just an example.

Battery terminal adapters to maintain OEM battery cable connections. These are really versatile for connecting multiple cables to battery terminals. They include a screw on post to connect the OEM cables to, and various sizes of connection holes with set screws for other cables. Makes for a neat and clean install.

There’s also an angle bracket that can be used to mount the connector on the frame. Just can find the link again

I plan on doing this to my PP once I get it. Very convenient way to jump your battery.

Please share your thoughts and ideas on this solution. Pros, cons, alternatives, etc. Hope this is helpful.

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StevzPassport2Adventure

· #9 · Apr 1, 2020

Beachbum07 said:
I think I found a good solution to extend the battery connections to a convenient spot under the hood, in case you need to jumpstart your battery from another vehicle.......Please share your thoughts and ideas on this solution. Pros, cons, alternatives, etc. Hope this is helpful.

Thanks for this...Once I get my car back I'll dig deeper into your recommendation, but thanks for posting this.

Beachbum07

· #10 · Apr 1, 2020

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StevzPassport2Adventure said:
Thanks for this...Once I get my car back I'll dig deeper into your recommendation, but thanks for posting this.

The one unknown for me is the the amount of space around the battery terminals to fit the battery terminal adapters mentioned above.

Here are the dimensions from Amazon:

Dimensions: 2.625” (W) x 2.0” (H) x 1.125” (D) with its insulated cover in place

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Beachbum07

· #11 · Apr 1, 2020 (Edited by Moderator)

Here’s a great video about the battery terminal adapter and how to use it.

KnuKonceptz Ultimate Battery Terminal Adapter

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ls973800

· #12 · Apr 3, 2020

Been searching all of the sites (Pilot, Passport, Odyssey, and Ridgeline) because in the last several days I swear I saw a mod to make jumping these vehicles easier. It was putting a bolt into a pre existing threaded hole which is on the drivers side fender. You can see the hole with the hood up and it's a little bit below the bottom of the windshield.

The post I saw (or swear I saw!) described the bolt to use and gave the metric measurements for it. It also included a picture of the bolt installed.

I believe it was posted from the Ridgeline forum?

Any one have the link to it?

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ls973800

· #13 · Apr 3, 2020 (Edited by Moderator)

Nevermind, I just found it. It was a link on the Ridgeline forum which opened a You Tube video showing the mod. If interested here it is. No need to remove anything to get to the battery negative terminal!

Negative ground mod to use for Jumping

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dred

· #14 · Apr 4, 2020 (Edited by Moderator)

I had no issue jumping mine. Cables fit no prob on + connected - to motor mount. jermeyboy's first pic.

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KMC

· #15 · Apr 4, 2020 (Edited by Moderator)

Perfect timing!

This morning we found my wife's 2019 Odyssey (1.5 years old, 22K miles) with a dead battery (replaced under warranty at the dealer this afternoon). No problem I thought, I always carry jumper cables.

Popped the hood on the Passport and WTF! Begrudgingly started popping off covers and still couldn't get to my negative terminal. I really didn't want to take the air intake off so just put it back together and called Honda Roadside assistance.

It really has me thinking about getting something like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015TKUPIC/

I never mind giving a jump to somebody, but don't want to have to remove a ton of crap in the engine bay every time I do it.

At least receiving a jump doesn't look too bad

Wrascal

· #16 · Apr 4, 2020 (Edited by Moderator)

I purchased this one in Dec 2013 (according to Amazon), and it still works. My first batttery pack (Walmart brand) only survived 3-4 years. Of course you need to keep them topped off.

https://www.amazon.com/Clore-Automotive-Jump-N-Carry-JNC660-Starter/dp/B000JFJLP6/ref=pd_ybh_a_16?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HRD6TFP2JBDV6SMA3QEE

Q: Wouldn't those engine covers still prevent you from using one of these devices?
One day I'll pop my hood and do a look-see.

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Beachbum07

· #17 · Apr 4, 2020 (Edited by Moderator)

Yes. The negative post is covered.

Here’s another option.

Charging posts mounted on a bracket

Connect to battery with:

Battery cables with ring terminals

If you can find a set of battery cables with flat ring terminals on one end, and with 90 degree angle ring terminals on the other end, the angled ends would work out great with the posts on the mounting bracket in the first link.

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Mt.Man

· #18 · Apr 4, 2020

ls973800 said:
Nevermind, I just found it. It was a link on the Ridgeline forum which opened a You Tube video showing the mod. If interested here it is. No need to remove anything to get to the battery negative terminal!

Negative ground mod to use for Jumping

This works great for connecting a jump starter that has short leads.

darksky

Discussion Starter · #19 · Apr 5, 2020

Great idea. Now I just need to find that specific bolt.

ls973800

· #20 · Apr 5, 2020

darksky said:
Great idea. Now I just need to find that specific bolt.

I just picked up a couple of the 6mm bolts today at Menard's here in Ohio. I am using them for a different project also (adding an oil catch can) and mounting it near the washer fluid filler tube where there is another threaded hole from the factory. One bolt was .49 cents, the other .68 cents, two different lengths, but I didn't get the specific one shown in the video even though they had them also.

I am sure most big box stores such as Home Depot and Lowe's, along with many well stocked hardware stores carry metric bolts and nuts.

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