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so I get a call from dealer today almost a month later.
saying we forgot to get you to sign a paper for your rebate
and we are getting audited tomorrow can you come and sign
or can we email and you sign and scan.
so I tell him send it over.
It says I took my rebate to lower my payments and if I pay
off loan in less then 8 months I would owe them blank no number....lol

so thats disturbing in two ways
one is I paid cash and have a copy of the bank draft.
another who in their right mind would sign anything with
with a $ sign in front of a blank $____
not me.

I think maybe I got too good of a deal and they are trying to scam
honda canada some how for another 2K
I aint signing anything
I have copy of the bank draft which matches invoice
and the ownership so not sure what they are trying to
pull.
Tempted to call honda canada.
 

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called honda make sure no lien,
she said they shouldnt be getting you to sign anything a month later.
I guess not.
would you sign a month later after paying cash..wtf
i wont be buying from here again

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Now that’s some shady shit! ?
Dealers get a bad rap because of this type of stuff.

You said you paid cash, was that for the vehicle or deposit? If you paid cash for the vehicle, Did you get your title yet? If so, keep a photo of the title on your phone should a tow truck show up. And if not, get something in writing from Honda showing no lien or anything,

I remember a dealer doing something like this with my 1994 Civic, I had to return with some more money for the lease or they were going to take the car. I was so broke then that I had to starve for a bit to afford the extra money.
 

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I don't like the incomplete VIN.
If you are charged $2,000, because you didn't agree to the rebate in writing, thus voiding the rebate, you can tell them that they had agreed to write the VIN in and they never did.
 

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I read an article that the Honda Dealers were getting Rebates when they sold a Passport (in the US), but this sounds like YOU were entitled to a Rebate and the Dealer is keeping it.

If you are not happy with the deal you got, NOW is the time to renegotiate!

Ask them how much they are going to pay you to sign it!
 

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i erased part of the vin and the dealers name.
I'm not too worried like I said I have the invoice, a copy of the bank draft
that matches the invoice and most importantly the ownership.
I called honda finance and only vehicle that they have under my name is the one
I traded and it is clear.

I got a good deal roughly 3800 off and tow package.
There was a 2000 honda incentive included in that.
they gave me a decent trade on my car.
I would of walked if it wasn't the deal i got.
 

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i erased part of the vin and the dealers name.
I'm not too worried like I said I have the invoice, a copy of the bank draft
that matches the invoice and most importantly the ownership.
I called honda finance and only vehicle that they have under my name is the one
I traded and it is clear.

I got a good deal roughly 3800 off and tow package.
There was a 2000 honda incentive included in that.
they gave me a decent trade on my car.
I would of walked if it wasn't the deal i got.
Well it sounds like the rebate may have been included in your deal and if that's the case. I'd just sign it and move on, you don't need the drama...
 

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but I didn't finance it did you read it?
basically says if the loan is paid off 8 months
i agree to pay whatever.
there is no loan period.
I owe $0 never did.
The incentive was a cash incentive and is on this
month as well.
You only get it if you pay cash.
 

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It doesn’t make sense to me. It’s saying Honda is the lien holder so how would Honda know they didn’t loan or lease that vehicle. Not sure how that would help them. I do know first hand that dealers will use those types of incentives, sometimes by simple mistake, only to not be able to meet the requirements. They don’t realize it till accounting catches it. Typically, when that happens the dealer has to eat it.
 

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exactly they can't do anything he said they
were getting audited tomorrow and needed the paper signed.
well they are going to fail the audit.
Not like honda didnt know it was on and its clear on the invoice.
if they need something signed I am getting snowies next week I
can read it and sign it then.
 

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Yep. What he said.
huh, there is nothing to negotiate the deal is done,
I have to believe all paper work
has been filed (its almost a month later)
I think they are trying to get additional credit from honda
but I am not signing a blank check.

They will have to deal with it.
Oh and I got my purchase survey today.
 

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Dred ,it sounds like you have all the necessary paperwork and are clear. They obviously goofed up somewhere and I would not worry about it and disregard their bull shite.
 

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done......lol
now if i could just get my snowies
before we get another big snow
 

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As Heather said above, it's crap like this that gives dealers a bad reputation. Its the dealer's problem, not yours. Ken in PA
 

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I bought my last new car online and it was the best car-buying experience ever (no haggling and they delivered the vehicle to my home). This time around that wasn't an option and the shady garbage dealers will do to make a sale really makes me wish the service I used last time was still around (sadly, they've moved to B2B only). My sales guy was so incessant on me not walking away without a deal he said that interest rates were set to rise really soon which certainly wasn't the case (nor was it likely in the not so distant future). Then he had a calculation sheet of the numbers which we haggled over, so he and his manager agreed to new numbers which he wrote on the same page. The PP is delivered to the dealer a couple of days later and I go to sign the contract and all-of-a-sudden the numbers they presented me were the original numbers (pre-haggle). I argued naturally and then the GM showed me the worksheet which clearly showed the other numbers which he had ignored. Then they go to update things and the network is suddenly down but I wasn't leaving until they fixed things. Then they try selling me the 3rd party warranty for $10/month and goes to get the info and it's now $12/month so told them I wasn't interested then they eventually offer it to me for $5/month. So they were going to take more than double from me for something that clearly costs them less than $5/month (they're not a charity so no way do they not make money on it).

So basically, I sure hope a viable online car buying service is available next time I'm in the market. Seems like all of the services are now geared towards used cars and the ones I found that dealt with new cars still funnels you through a dealer.
 

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The sites that I look for cars at are truecar, edmunds, and my warehouse club - sam's.
I input the honda passport awd tou, my zip and info.
Within an hour I'll get to look at dealers that use one of the above sites, for leads.
If the prices are too high, I try again during the last few days of next month.
If a dealer isn't on the list, but has the color, I call the internet sales manager and ask for a price match, then I forward the best offer.
 

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I bought my last new car online and it was the best car-buying experience ever (no haggling and they delivered the vehicle to my home). This time around that wasn't an option and the shady garbage dealers will do to make a sale really makes me wish the service I used last time was still around (sadly, they've moved to B2B only). My sales guy was so incessant on me not walking away without a deal he said that interest rates were set to rise really soon which certainly wasn't the case (nor was it likely in the not so distant future). Then he had a calculation sheet of the numbers which we haggled over, so he and his manager agreed to new numbers which he wrote on the same page. The PP is delivered to the dealer a couple of days later and I go to sign the contract and all-of-a-sudden the numbers they presented me were the original numbers (pre-haggle). I argued naturally and then the GM showed me the worksheet which clearly showed the other numbers which he had ignored. Then they go to update things and the network is suddenly down but I wasn't leaving until they fixed things. Then they try selling me the 3rd party warranty for $10/month and goes to get the info and it's now $12/month so told them I wasn't interested then they eventually offer it to me for $5/month. So they were going to take more than double from me for something that clearly costs them less than $5/month (they're not a charity so no way do they not make money on it).

So basically, I sure hope a viable online car buying service is available next time I'm in the market. Seems like all of the services are now geared towards used cars and the ones I found that dealt with new cars still funnels you through a dealer.
gwar9999 your experience is the reason dealers have such a poor reputation and are, if possible, to be avoided. However, as you pointed out, sometimes is impossible to do so. From your description, it looks like the classic bate and switch experience. I hope you have an alternate source for your PP's regular maintenance needs. Ken in PA
 

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gwar9999 said:
So basically, I sure hope a viable online car buying service is available next time I'm in the market.
Not sure why you bother having any in-person discussion(s) at dealer. We're purchased dozens of Hondas from different dealers and never step inside a dealer showroom, never make any phone calls prior to driving down, pay and pickup keys. All done via email setup just for that one-time. Rarely do we return to same dealer but have on occasion found another good price and used that to negotiate (again, email only) the next purchase.
 

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Not sure why you bother having any in-person discussion(s) at dealer. We're purchased dozens of Hondas from different dealers and never step inside a dealer showroom, never make any phone calls prior to driving down, pay and pickup keys. All done via email setup just for that one-time. Rarely do we return to same dealer but have on occasion found another good price and used that to negotiate (again, email only) the next purchase.
Do you not take a test drive before purchase?
 
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