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I’ve been having the Brake System light come on my dash, then the entire dash lights up with a Adaptive CC, Road Departure Mitigation and Lane Keeping assist warning lights flashing and beeping. In the past I’ve just pulled over and shut the vehicle down which clears it, but it seems to be more frequent.

Anyone else experiencing this headache, and if so did you take in and what was the issue. Thanks ahead of time
 

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If your brake fluid level is okay you might need to take your car to the dealer for an error code scan, so many separate systems have been integrated in modern cars that even a non functional brake light or a dead tpms sensor can trigger the Brake System light.
 

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Ok I made an appointment to have this condition looked at, when I find out I’ll post.

One dealer I called about an appointment but it was out too far, asked how often I drive because I could need a new battery. Ive got such a bitter taste in my mouth with dealerships that I just don’t believe a thing they tell me, because the first thing I thought after the battery comment was “oh the old must be the battery“ scam, must have taken over the cabin air filter, engine air filter scams. Aren’t selling new cars so get them in the maintenance department
 

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@Powdertrax ... If you have a national auto part store nearby, they will typically do a battery test for free. Call ahead to verify that the service is free and their battery tester is working. It only takes a few minutes. This may help rule out the battery. You are not obligated to purchase a replacement. If you need a replacement, be sure it is an AGM type battery. They also have a code reader if any codes exists.
 

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I'm not a fan of letting anyone work on my vehicles but me. I get that not everyone's a mechanic or has the desire to diagnose or repair today's very complex vehicles.
Everything electrical on newer vehicles runs on Can Bus protocol, if the battery gets a little weak, (anything less than 12.63 volts) it tends to create some strange electrical problems. If the battery is more than 3 years old I would encourage you to replace it with a quality new battery just as preventative maintenance. A decent scan tool avaliable from Amazon can also be invaluable in diagnosing problems that can sometimes be easily fixed yourself without a trip to the dealer. Or at least you will have a better idea if the dealer if being honest or not.
 

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@Powdertrax ... If you have a national auto part store nearby, they will typically do a battery test for free. Call ahead to verify that the service is free and their battery tester is working. It only takes a few minutes. This may help rule out the battery. You are not obligated to purchase a replacement. If you need a replacement, be sure it is an AGM type battery. They also have a code reader if any codes exists.
My neighbor is a mechanic at our local Toyota dealer, he has a battery tester and we have an Auto Zone that will also test it.
 

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I'm not a fan of letting anyone work on my vehicles but me. I get that not everyone's a mechanic or has the desire to diagnose or repair today's very complex vehicles.
Everything electrical on newer vehicles runs on Can Bus protocol, if the battery gets a little weak, (anything less than 12.63 volts) it tends to create some strange electrical problems. If the battery is more than 3 years old I would encourage you to replace it with a quality new battery just as preventative maintenance. A decent scan tool avaliable from Amazon can also be invaluable in diagnosing problems that can sometimes be easily fixed yourself without a trip to the dealer. Or at least you will have a better idea if the dealer if being honest or not.
Good to know, thanks for the tip.

I also try to do as much maintenance I can, I’m no auto mechanic but changing oil, filters air or oil, tranny fluid, plugs, battery, etc are easy enough to do, and I enjoy it. I won’t hesitate to do a search online to resolve issues, but I get the most joy out of studying how something works and then see where in that link the issue is and fit it. The amount of money I’ve saved myself not only on my car, but also my house by replacing the water heater, stove, fixing the igniter on the furnace etc etc is very rewarding. I also love when my daughter calls needing help or wanting something built
 

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I'm not a fan of letting anyone work on my vehicles but me. I get that not everyone's a mechanic or has the desire to diagnose or repair today's very complex vehicles.
Everything electrical on newer vehicles runs on Can Bus protocol, if the battery gets a little weak, (anything less than 12.63 volts) it tends to create some strange electrical problems. If the battery is more than 3 years old I would encourage you to replace it with a quality new battery just as preventative maintenance. A decent scan tool avaliable from Amazon can also be invaluable in diagnosing problems that can sometimes be easily fixed yourself without a trip to the dealer. Or at least you will have a better idea if the dealer if being honest or not.
I checked my battery and it came back at 12.3V
 

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I'm not a fan of letting anyone work on my vehicles but me. I get that not everyone's a mechanic or has the desire to diagnose or repair today's very complex vehicles.
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For those few times, when a shop needs to fix the car, you've got to tell them that you and the family are about to travel 6 to 7 hours and hope that you don't breakdown.
Shops are notorious for "making work" for themselves, by tampering with this or that, which will bring you back to spend more money.
If they know that their mischievousness will put money in another shop's pocket, 10 hours away, they're less likely to create trouble.
There's no guarantee, but it's a good counter strategy.
 

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Tip:
For those few times, when a shop needs to fix the car, you've got to tell them that you and the family are about to travel 6 to 7 hours and hope that you don't breakdown.
Shops are notorious for "making work" for themselves, by tampering with this or that, which will bring you back to spend more money.
If they know that their mischievousness will put money in another shop's pocket, 10 hours away, they're less likely to create trouble.
There's no guarantee, but it's a good counter strategy.
Or find a very reputable mechanic, if you live in Snohomish or King county (Washington state) a majority of Honda owners know of Tony at Main Street Auto in Monroe. He’s been doing all of my families maintenance for 15+ years without a single return because of an issue.

He’s Honda and Acura only shop, he’s gotten so popular that he’s actually turning people away. When my daughter was looking to buy a new vehicle, I insisted it be a Honda because of Tony. It amazes my how many people I know that go to him, not to mention when my daughter bought her new HRV the finance women tried her best to talk my daughter into buying their extended warranty. I stepped in and said she won’t be needing that we have a reputable family mechanic, she asked who it was, I told her Tony in Monroe then she replied “oh I know Tony, I take my cars to him” ahhhh what ?

He’s worked on my sons Civic and CRV, my Element and S2000, my wife’s TL and TLX, my daughters boyfriends Civic and also my Passport. I trust him with any issue, unless it’s a warranty issue, which he’ll gladly inform you if it is.
 

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Typical dealers, two weeks ago I made a appointment to have them look at my Cruise Control warning issue. My appointment was Tuesday at 7:50 a.m. so instead of getting stuck in morning traffic I dropped my car off Monday night. The service employee said they’d need my vehicle for a couple days which I thought was odd for an obvious computer glitch. He also stated that he’d contact me letting me know what the issue was, it was now 5:30pm with no call so I decided to call and when I did the employee stated that my vehicle hasn’t even been brought into the shop yet and said it should be in the shop tomorrow, SO why the hell did I make a appointment for 7:55am if you won’t be looking at it for two days.

My lack of trust in these guys tells me the problem won’t be resolved, normally I’d take it to my mechanic, but since it’s a warranty issue I took it to Kirkland Honda
 

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Typical dealers, two weeks ago I made a appointment to have them look at my Cruise Control warning issue. My appointment was Tuesday at 7:50 a.m. so instead of getting stuck in morning traffic I dropped my car off Monday night. The service employee said they’d need my vehicle for a couple days which I thought was odd for an obvious computer glitch. He also stated that he’d contact me letting me know what the issue was, it was now 5:30pm with no call so I decided to call and when I did the employee stated that my vehicle hasn’t even been brought into the shop yet and said it should be in the shop tomorrow, SO why the hell did I make a appointment for 7:55am if you won’t be looking at it for two days.

My lack of trust in these guys tells me the problem won’t be resolved, normally I’d take it to my mechanic, but since it’s a warranty issue I took it to Kirkland Honda
Two days on the shop parking lot is a long time, the shop is understaffed and probably not interested in getting more hands. It never ends with dealer shenanigans sometimes. Please share whatever they find to be the issue with the Cruise Control warning.
 

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The drama continue, this morning I got a call from the dealer stating that my windshield camera is faulty and they ordered a new one that won’t be here til Saturday.

I wish that was where it ended but when they called this morning they told me that I should have my windshield replace due to a two foot crack. He stated that if they install the new camera and calibrate it, they would have to do it again after the windshield is replaced at a $400 charge. So now I’m waiting for a call back from the auto glass company to make an appointment to have it replaced at the dealership, who knows how much longer they’ll have my car, I’m guessing middle of next week.

More to come
 

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$400 to calibrate a camera? If mine ever goes bad and I can't find a way to calibrate it myself, I guess it won't get calibrated and I'll just disconnect/bypass everything that camera has anything to do with.
If you have full glass coverage on your auto insurance policy, windshield replacement and camera calibration may be covered. Glass coverage may also allow you to request replacement if the windshield is severely pitted, with a limitation on number of windshield replacement per year.
 
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