What I find quite odd is the VIN numbers effected are not listed. Every service bulletin I have ever encountered has the VIN's effected on it.
Also on NHTSA I see nothing but 5 complaints (service brakes/forward collision avoidance) on my 2022, 37 complaints on 2021 and zero complaints on 2020. Not one complaint on the start stop malfunction.
I figure this issue with the start stop is pretty rare. I imagine it's fixed automatically when the vehicle is brought into dealer for service. And it does not have to be a Honda dealer. My local shop checks and corrects any kind of service bulletin on various manufacturers vehicles.
You peaked my interest in this posting. "set your Passport up with pigtail". What does this look like? What did you install? What battery maintainer did you get?The start stop does not bother me much and works pretty much seamless. Exception is it's a little rough when engine is cold. When the vehicle is cold (first start of the day) I shut it off. Once things warm up I just leave it on. Pretty slick feature. Try as a will, I cannot move my foot from brake to go pedal quicker than the restart.
One thing I highly recommend is to set your Passport up with pigtail and keep it on a battery maintainer of some sort when parked for more than a few days. The parasitic draws on these modern vehicles are no joke. Even After 2 days setting in the driveway I'm at less than 75% battery charge. It takes overnight top get it over 75% at a 2 amp charge.
Good news is Honda has made it super duper convenient to disable. A single push switch right behind shift button to disable/enable. Time will tell if I get the bulletin.
That's exactly true. Honda is known for fixing known defects right away just like Toyota. And as to why I take with a grain of salt a quirk that is blown out of proportion on the forums.It’s hard to believe that a company like Honda (number one benefit of the brand is the perception of reliability) would take 3-4 years to do ANYTHING about all the customer complaints.
I'm quite surprised. Never heard of that one before.Although we shouldn’t be surprised considering how long the speaker crackling has been around.
Here you go. We have 4 vehicles and 2 motorcycles that are rotated into service. My 2005 GMC Sierra sets permanent in driveway so it's got its own stand alone solar charge controller hooked up with a portable hard solar panel when parked. GMC and the 1998 Lexus gets driven the least.You peaked my interest in this posting. "set your Passport up with pigtail". What does this look like? What did you install? What battery maintainer did you get?
You keep using the anecdotal 'car forum rage' example as if you imagine NHTSA or Honda investigates or fixes problems based of forum posts. You can disagree about your vehicle's quality but your experience is limited to your vehicle alone. In this case Honda must have received scores of complaints about this problem from its dealer network even if both the NHTSA investigation and the class action lawsuit about the Idle Stop feature do not exist. Car manufacturers don't recall cars because of innocuous "quirks".And as to why I take with a grain of salt a quirk that is blown out of proportion on the forums.
This response perfectly characterizes your opinion on this issue, you form concrete opinions despite having limited knowledge of Honda vehicles or the issues being described. In case you like to know, every 2019-2021 Passport/Pilot and 2018-2021 Odyssey owner has heard about the crackling and popping infotainment issue either because they had the issue in their vehicle or they received an invitation from Honda to come and fix it. Even then, it remains a sore point for many owners of the 2019-2021 years.I'm quite surprised. Never heard of that one before.
This!jasonpp, The previous Honda/Acura TSB 22-008 required dealership service, (.2 hour labor), it's not a simple over-the-air software update
Hopefully Honda will offer to also extend their warranty on the starter to 10-years like they did to 'correct' the same problem on the TLX. See attachments
At the risk of joining you in going round in circles I will point out again that the 2022 is not the genesis of the Idle Stop issues, it started with the 2016 Pilot which the NHTSA received thousands of complaints on, the same 2016 Pilot is largely identical to all Passports when you pull the skin back. I made a point of this numbers earlier, you replied about you being confused why it remains unfixed until Honda released a Service Bulletin for it this month to cover all affected cars including the 2022 Passport, but here you are again a few posts down, claiming only 5 complaints exists. The complaints since the 2016 Pilot are about the Idle Stop system in the Pilot, not about the Pilot itself, that same system is in all Passports from 2019 till 2022.fx_chip, I will respectfully have to disagree in regards to your arguments and rebuttals toward me. No vehicle is perfect. However, these Honda mechanical problems are getting blown way out of proportion. 5 NHTSA complaints (none for the stop start feature) for a 2022 Passport is not representative of the 10's of thousands that have rolled off the assembly line.