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So I was reading how easy it is to steel are Honda SUV and cars. Has any one tried hooking up an old school style kill switch to the passport? if yes how did you do it ? For any one who doesn't no what this is , it's a hidden switch that at hooked to the starter relay or some times to ecu or ignition, making the vehicle unable to start without having the switch on. Problem with the old style setups is that this would kill the autostart feature that my wife loves and put me in the dog house , so my idea is to use the brake pedal switch as the main cut off point. and put fake Honda switch to the blank spot left of the stearing wheel . So even if car thief was able to gane access to the car and reprogramed the ecu to accept a new key and start the passport they would not be able to get it into gear and drive away with it. I figure the longer it takes them to figure it out they would give up and leave. I haven't yet looked under the dash at the brake switch on the passport but older Honda's I have had, used a two wire switch to unlock the gear shift so I'm assuming it's the same . The switch would be most likely a fog light switch in the blank spot. It also has to be an on or off style switch. This just an idea and I'm not sure if it would work but chime in with you two cents
 

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I’m curious? What and where did you read Honda’s are easy to steal? And here is a personal experience with kill switches and advanced alarms, I had a 88 Mustang GT and I had a very good alarm system, Lo Jack and a invisible kill switch( it was connected to one of the screws on the dashboard. You had to touch it and turn the key.)Well the towed the car on a flatbed truck, I saw the drag marks on the street. And as for LoJak, they found the car completely stripped with the LoJak box Sitting where the drivers seat used to be. As a policeman friend likes to say “locks are for honest people”
 

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I don't want to scare any one ,it's been known for awhile that the Honda fobs are the problem,the signal can be retransmited with a home made repeater to get into your car, once they are in thay use a programmer to to accept a new key fob start it and drive away with it. No alarms super quiet theft, I've been putting my fobs into a metal box when I get home to block it signal when not in use . Think Amazon sells Faraday boxes and pouches for this as well
 

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I think modern Honda SUVs are only as easy to steal as every other SUV out there. Can thieves break in and steal stuff left in the car? Certainly. Can they drive the car away after breaking in? Not so easy if the car is locked because that also immobilizes the engine making it impossible to start or drive the vehicle without having access to specialist tools. And even with specialist tools the thieves will need several minutes to program a new key fob but tech savvy car thieves don't like being caught fiddling with vehicles in public places. The other theft scenario is the cloning of fob signals, that is easier to pull off but run of the mill criminals do not have the tech skills and the tools needed to achieve that objective, it takes more that a home made signal hijacker/repeater, outside that, fob signal hijacking/cloning is a problem that is industry wide so not unique to Honda. I note the OP is in Canada, there are several reports of Toyota SUVs that disappeared from where parked in Canada being placed inside a container and shipped to Africa, the Middle East and Eastern Europe after the fob signals were stolen and cloned.

With these in mind, Honda SUV owners do not need to install additional security tools, kill switches are for vehicles that thieves can quickly hot wire the ignition or start with a screwdriver in the ignition, the Passport cannot be easily hot wired. And if anyone is going to go as far as cloning your fob signal, there's very little you can do to stop the vehicle from being stolen.
 

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There is nothing that can be done to prevent a criminal from stealing. Deterrents only slow them down. Without getting political it is hard to reply to this. Let's just say in my country the criminals and dregs are king and allowed to run ramped. The honest law abiding citizen has no rights to protect their own property.
 

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It's a modern car/fob signal hijacking problem, not a Honda problem. And Canada seems to lack competent export controls, you can't ship a vehicle out of the U.S. without the Title being verified as having no lien and issued in the name of the exporter.


"Malta Customs said on Thursday that officials, through their scanning equipment, intercepted:
  • five Ford F150,
  • a Ford F250,
  • two Lexus RX35,
  • two Jeep Gran Cherokee,
  • a Jeep Wrangler,
  • two Honda CRV,
  • a Chrysler,
  • a Chevrolet Taho,
  • two Dodge Dura
  • and a Range Rover.
They were hidden in ten 40-foot containers en-route to Abu Dhabi.
Police and the Canadian authorities have been informed about the find."


 

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This is for the tri state area I live in. Notice not one Honda Passport or it’s bigger clone the Pilot is on the list. And the article also mentions it mostly older Honda’s that don’t have the security technology that the newer ones have.
Actually here in NYC the biggest problem with vehicle theft is the stealing of catalytic converter’s, and that is not isolated to any particular brand or model. Although SUVs and larger vehicles are easier for the thieves to crawl under. In the last 3 months 4 vehicles had their catalytic converters stolen on my Block
 

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"The total value of the vehicles seized in Italy is approximately $1.5 million dollars and the 10 vehicles seized in Canada were valued at over $300,000 dollars. The vehicles seized include Camaros, the Mercedes' GLC 4.3 AMG, an SUV, a Jeep Land Rover and others. "



It's not strictly an Honda problem.
 

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Lol the wife last week was telling me to look for the stick steering wheel lock we use to have, thaught she was loosing it but I guess that kind of guard is coming back.
At least the one in the post above covers the whole steering wheel. The old “Club” took 2 seconds to defeat. The cut the rim of the wheel and bend it and Club is off.
 

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The Top 10 Most Stolen Cars as of 2022
  • Honda Civic.
  • Honda Accord.
  • Toyota Camry.
  • GMC Pickup.
  • Nissan Altima.
  • Honda CR-V.
  • Jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee.
  • Toyota Corolla.
 

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The Top 10 Most Stolen Cars as of 2022
  • Honda Civic.
  • Honda Accord.
  • Toyota Camry.
  • GMC Pickup.
  • Nissan Altima.
  • Honda CR-V.
  • Jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee.
  • Toyota Corolla.
It's simple math, the more particular models the higher the theft rate. If there are 500 on one model in a town and 10 of another, which car has the higher theft rate?
 
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I had a 1978 Dodge Van (bought it new). I added an alarm that came with a wireless transmitter, that worked about a 1/2 mile or so, and once someone broke into my van, while it was on the driveway, I was alerted, turned on some house lights and the turd ran away with an ice chest..

I would think with all the advancements in Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, someone makes some type of device that would alert your phone, when/if your Passport is tampered with...
 

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So I was reading how easy it is to steel are Honda SUV and cars. Has any one tried hooking up an old school style kill switch to the passport? if yes how did you do it ? For any one who doesn't no what this is , it's a hidden switch that at hooked to the starter relay or some times to ecu or ignition, making the vehicle unable to start without having the switch on. Problem with the old style setups is that this would kill the autostart feature that my wife loves and put me in the dog house , so my idea is to use the brake pedal switch as the main cut off point. and put fake Honda switch to the blank spot left of the stearing wheel . So even if car thief was able to gane access to the car and reprogramed the ecu to accept a new key and start the passport they would not be able to get it into gear and drive away with it. I figure the longer it takes them to figure it out they would give up and leave. I haven't yet looked under the dash at the brake switch on the passport but older Honda's I have had, used a two wire switch to unlock the gear shift so I'm assuming it's the same . The switch would be most likely a fog light switch in the blank spot. It also has to be an on or off style switch. This just an idea and I'm not sure if it would work but chime in with you two cents
We sertenly dont want enybuddy steeling are Hondas.
 
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