[Generick]

Hello everyone! I just bought a used 2019 Passport. I'm from Canada and the winter here can be very brutal. I was thinking of changing my OEM tires to Falken Wildpeak Trail. I don't want a lift. I was just wondering, will it rub? Thanks!

 

[NotcherBiznas]

Gonna need some tire sizes here. If they're the same size as before...then likely not.

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[Tadakatsu]

Why WOULD they rub?

For what it's worth that has become arguable the most popular tire among Subaru Outback owners over at our sister site www.SubaruOutback.org. I left employment at a Honda-Toyota-Subaru dealership today but during my time there I sold a lot of tires and the Falken WIldpeak tires were among my most popular selling tires. Everyone reports that they are great tires in all conditions to include winter driving and offroad, not to mention year round otherwise. I'm strongly considering them for my Subaru Outback and perhaps for my Honda Passport as well.

 

[billz]

I have them on my Passport and no rubbing at all. Just get the proper size. I'm very happy with them. Haven't used them in snow yet but my son has them on his Outback and they worked very well in the snowy mountains around Breckenridge and Vail last winter.

 

[verifyme]

I also have the Wildpeak Trails on my Passport (2020 EX-L) and am really pleased. I went one size up to 255/50 R20 (okay on the 8.0" wide OEM wheels per Tire Rack and Discount Tire) to get a bit more muscular stance. The sidewall 'reach' is also better which reduces curb rash risk (don't ask me how I know this...) and there's no rub lock to lock. The Passport's signature harsh ride is noticeably improved (verified by an awful expansion joint 'test' on my work commute) and gas mileage doesn't seem to be impacted at all. I stayed with the OEM 20" wheels because, honestly, I just like the look on the EX-L, and there's no worry about hub fit or wheel offset. Doesn't mean that there aren't a few 18" wheels out there that continue to call out to me, though, and that would certainly improve the ride, on and off road, just that much more. I'll (try to) attach a few pictures that might help (tempt you) in your decision.

 

[Bubba Wolf]

I also have the Wildpeak Trails on my Passport (2020 EX-L) and am really pleased. I went one size up to 255/50 R20 (okay on the 8.0" wide OEM wheels per Tire Rack and Discount Tire) to get a bit more muscular stance. The sidewall 'reach' is also better which reduces curb rash risk (don't ask me how I know this...) and there's no rub lock to lock. The Passport's signature harsh ride is noticeably improved (verified by an awful expansion joint 'test' on my work commute) and gas mileage doesn't seem to be impacted at all. I stayed with the OEM 20" wheels because, honestly, I just like the look on the EX-L, and there's no worry about hub fit or wheel offset. Doesn't mean that there aren't a few 18" wheels out there that continue to call out to me, though, and that would certainly improve the ride, on and off road, just that much more. I'll (try to) attach a few pictures that might help (tempt you) in your decision.

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How’s the road noise vs the OEM’s?

 

[verifyme]

How’s the road noise vs the OEM’s?

Road noise with the Falken Trails is interesting. On most roads I notice a very slight, and I mean very slight, increase in 'hum'. Now, if the road is really smooth, which is a rarity anymore in Colorado, the hum is a bit more noticeable, but not at all bothersome. It actually makes me feel kinda good, like there's a little something extra cool going on here. The real improvement for me, though, is that they take the edge off the harsh ride of the stock Continentals. You'll still have the 'rock and roll' of the Passport's stiffer suspension, but overall I'm glad that I made the switch. The USTMA's Three Peak Mountain Snowflake rating is also a plus for those of us that have winter driving conditions a good part of the year.

 

[Bubba Wolf]

Road noise with the Falken Trails is interesting. On most roads I notice a very slight, and I mean very slight, increase in 'hum'. Now, if the road is really smooth, which is a rarity anymore in Colorado, the hum is a bit more noticeable, but not at all bothersome. It actually makes me feel kinda good, like there's a little something extra cool going on here. The real improvement for me, though, is that they take the edge off the harsh ride of the stock Continentals. You'll still have the 'rock and roll' of the Passport's stiffer suspension, but overall I'm glad that I made the switch. The USTMA's Three Peak Mountain Snowflake rating is also a plus for those of us that have winter driving conditions a good part of the year.

Thanks for the info! I’m actually moving to Denver in a month, and am between these and the continental terraincontacts…

 

[aman88]

I also have the Wildpeak Trails on my Passport (2020 EX-L) and am really pleased. I went one size up to 255/50 R20 (okay on the 8.0" wide OEM wheels per Tire Rack and Discount Tire) to get a bit more muscular stance. The sidewall 'reach' is also better which reduces curb rash risk (don't ask me how I know this...) and there's no rub lock to lock. The Passport's signature harsh ride is noticeably improved (verified by an awful expansion joint 'test' on my work commute) and gas mileage doesn't seem to be impacted at all. I stayed with the OEM 20" wheels because, honestly, I just like the look on the EX-L, and there's no worry about hub fit or wheel offset. Doesn't mean that there aren't a few 18" wheels out there that continue to call out to me, though, and that would certainly improve the ride, on and off road, just that much more. I'll (try to) attach a few pictures that might help (tempt you) in your decision.

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How have you been liking these tires so far? I am not thrilled with the stock continentals... any drop in mpg or other issues? Thanks!

 

[TabRx]

Do you think the Falken Wildpead A/T/ Trail in size 255/50R20 will fit the Touring or Elite's 8.5" rim size ? Really thinking about going with this exact tire and just wanted to confirm with someone that they work on a Touring wheel as well.

 

[JLH]

Do you think the Falken Wildpead A/T/ Trail in size 255/50R20 will fit the Touring or Elite's 8.5" rim size ? Really thinking about going with this exact tire and just wanted to confirm with someone that they work on a Touring wheel as well.

They will fit fine on your rims. I'm planning on going with that same size when I need tires. I will probably go with Michelin Defenders. You need to be aware that your speedometer will read approximately 2% slower than your actual speed.

 

[ejbthree]

I just got new tires for my 2019 Passport and went with the Falken Wildpeak A/T Trail in 255/50R20.(OEM Continentals still had plenty of Depth but the tread was super slick and no longer safe) My Passport is a Sport model so I have 8" rims and they fit and look great with no rubbing at all, they would fit fine on the 8.5" Elite/touring rims for sure. I am glad I went with these tires, though only time will tell on how they will last, they are amazing at the start, has great rim protection and look Baaaadd A$$

 

[ejbthree]

I also have the Wildpeak Trails on my Passport (2020 EX-L) and am really pleased. I went one size up to 255/50 R20 (okay on the 8.0" wide OEM wheels per Tire Rack and Discount Tire) to get a bit more muscular stance. The sidewall 'reach' is also better which reduces curb rash risk (don't ask me how I know this...) and there's no rub lock to lock. The Passport's signature harsh ride is noticeably improved (verified by an awful expansion joint 'test' on my work commute) and gas mileage doesn't seem to be impacted at all. I stayed with the OEM 20" wheels because, honestly, I just like the look on the EX-L, and there's no worry about hub fit or wheel offset. Doesn't mean that there aren't a few 18" wheels out there that continue to call out to me, though, and that would certainly improve the ride, on and off road, just that much more. I'll (try to) attach a few pictures that might help (tempt you) in your decision.

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Thank you for your original post your pics are what swayed me to go the same route..!! Thanks the tires look and perform great!

 

[verifyme]

Thank you for your original post your pics are what swayed me to go the same route..!! Thanks the tires look and perform great!

I'm glad that you found the post helpful. I've been running the Wildpeak Trails in 255/50 R20 on our 2020 Passport EX-L for about 9,000 miles now and couldn't be more pleased.

In a separate post I talk about 4-wheeling in a Wrangler over Red Mountain Pass and up to Yankee Boy Basin outside of Ouray, Colorado this past September. After building up some confidence from reading in our FunTreks Colorado 4-Wheel-Drive Trails guide book (highly recommended), my wife and I then decided to tackle the trail through the nearby Red Mountain Mining Area in the Passport. It had rained two days before, so there were some muddy (and the usual rocky) sections to contend with. We did have to choose a careful line to avoid some of the sharper rocks but, as you can see from the attached pictures at Yankee Girl Mine, the Passport (and the Wildpeaks) handled it just fine.

And I have to agree with you, the Wildpeaks do look pretty BA, particularly with a bit of mud on 'em...

 

[ares]

I'm glad that you found the post helpful. I've been running the Wildpeak Trails in 255/50 R20 on our 2020 Passport EX-L for about 9,000 miles now and couldn't be more pleased.

In a separate post I talk about 4-wheeling in a Wrangler over Red Mountain Pass and up to Yankee Boy Basin outside of Ouray, Colorado this past September. After building up some confidence from reading in our FunTreks Colorado 4-Wheel-Drive Trails guide book (highly recommended), my wife and I then decided to tackle the trail through the nearby Red Mountain Mining Area in the Passport. It had rained two days before, so there were some muddy (and the usual rocky) sections to contend with. We did have to choose a careful line to avoid some of the sharper rocks but, as you can see from the attached pictures at Yankee Girl Mine, the Passport (and the Wildpeaks) handled it just fine.

And I have to agree with you, the Wildpeaks do look pretty BA, particularly with a bit of mud on 'em...

Couple of questions:
Did you air down your tires at all while you were out adventuring?
Did you re-program the ECU to account for the tire size difference?

 

[verifyme]

Couple of questions:
Did you air down your tires at all while you were out adventuring?
Did you re-program the ECU to account for the tire size difference?

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Good questions. Regarding airing down, since I'm still running the OEM 20" wheels, there's not a lot of sidewall to allow for much of that, so no, I don't air down. It's always preferable, of course, to have 18" wheels (or better yet, 17"ers like our Wrangler) to get more traction aired down but, since the Passport is driven mostly on-road, I'm just sticking (for now...) with the OEMs. When I do go off-road with the Passport, I typically take the easier trails and am careful to pick a line that avoids sharper hazards. On difficult-rated trails I (we) take the Wrangler.

On the question of tire size difference, the 2020 EX-L (and Sport, I believe) came with 245/50 R20 tires, so stepping up to the 255/50 R20 tires just gives a bit more width and wheel protection. It doesn't impact, at least not materially, the speedometer reading. The Touring and Elite packages have the 265/45 R20 tires standard, or at least that was the case with the 2020 model year.

 

[ares]

Good questions. Regarding airing down, since I'm still running the OEM 20" wheels, there's not a lot of sidewall to allow for much of that, so no, I don't air down. It's always preferable, of course, to have 18" wheels (or better yet, 17"ers like our Wrangler) to get more traction aired down but, since the Passport is driven mostly on-road, I'm just sticking (for now...) with the OEMs. When I do go off-road with the Passport, I typically take the easier trails and am careful to pick a line that avoids sharper hazards. On difficult-rated trails I (we) take the Wrangler.

On the question of tire size difference, the 2020 EX-L (and Sport, I believe) came with 245/50 R20 tires, so stepping up to the 255/50 R20 tires just gives a bit more width and wheel protection. It doesn't impact, at least not materially, the speedometer reading. The Touring and Elite packages have the 265/45 R20 tires standard, or at least that was the case with the 2020 model year.

I do have the elite and you're right on the tire size - which is what I posted on the image; I didnt know there was another tire size used for the 20s.

I'm planning on getting the trailsport wheels. I do want to get even taller-than-stock tires but not sure if I want to deal with messing with the speed/speedometer every time I swap wheels.

My biggest concern is tire puncture. Both MotorTrend and DrivingSportsTV had punctures on the stock tires (firestone?). I'm hoping the wildpeak is a little more durable.

Since the car is new, and this will be my first time in Big Bend, I'll try to be extra careful.