[Geo]

OK, here we go. I have a 2019 Honda Passport and the rear camber on both rear tires were 2 degrees negative camber. this is a Passport i owned from the beginning and no modifications were made to it, well taken care of. when i took it to the dealer they said its past its camber adjustment limits and i would have to pay for a camber extension kit for it. $1,400. the car was still under its 3 year warranty, Honda dealer said they wouldn't cover the installation of the kit. obviously going to be a Honda recall in the future, i see a lot of Honda SUV's like this and they don't know what to do.
I found the so called Passport camber extension kit. the deal wont give out any info on it.
its 23450

SPC Performance 23450 - SPC Performance Ball Joints
I got with SPC engineer and we did some research. the passport is built on the Pilot frame. so a lot of the same parts. The part # listed for the pilot camber kit is also the same for the Passport. So now the part is also listed under passport.
do some research for price. I ended up getting mine from summit racing for $136 ea. it has a 3 degree offset ea direction.
I now have them installed on my passport for the last 3 weeks, looks a lot better.
Personally i wouldn't get it from e-bay or amazon. put the part number in and google it. a lot of the companies selling it is getting them from SPC. and SPC is the original designer of the Ball joint 23450. They give you a installation video and required tools. i rented my tool from Advanced auto parts store.
2019 Honda Passport camber ball joint extension kit 23450 from SPC

 

[carpayments4life]

Tuners/Honda Fanboys learned this back in the Prelude SH-AWD days:
Acura/honda SH-AWD/ivtm4 awd systems require at least one degree of rear end negative toe, which is provided by having negative camber on those rear wheels.
This is required, because the rear wheels are not always engaged/actively propelling the vehicle. They need to be toed-in initially, so that... as they are "pulled" by the vehicle going forward, they begin to toe out to become zero toe.
If you make the rear toe zero, when not in motion, the AWD system's metal gears will wear prematurely.

 

[fx_chip]

Tuners/Honda Fanboys learned this back in the Prelude SH-AWD days:
Acura/honda SH-AWD/ivtm4 awd systems require at least one degree of rear end negative toe, which is provided by having negative camber on those rear wheels.
This is required, because the rear wheels are not always engaged/actively propelling the vehicle. They need to be toed-in initially, so that... as they are "pulled" by the vehicle going forward, they begin to toe out to become zero toe.
If you make the rear toe zero, when not in motion, the AWD system's metal gears will wear prematurely.

Thanks for that insight.

 

[jasonpp]

I am not understanding what you are saying here.
Most passenger cars will have between 1-2 degrees of camber in the back for safety reasons to make the car understeer under extreme conditions.
It's not something that's worn out over time and is probbaly fixed not adjustable from the factory.
You can change this camber yourself if you want and dial in the type of handling you want.
It's not an issue and Honda will not recall anything.

 

[kslu_wa]

OK, here we go. I have a 2019 Honda Passport and the rear camber on both rear tires were 2 degrees negative camber. this is a Passport i owned from the beginning and no modifications were made to it, well taken care of. when i took it to the dealer they said its past its camber adjustment limits and i would have to pay for a camber extension kit for it. $1,400. the car was still under its 3 year warranty, Honda dealer said they wouldn't cover the installation of the kit. obviously going to be a Honda recall in the future, i see a lot of Honda SUV's like this and they don't know what to do.
I found the so called Passport camber extension kit. the deal wont give out any info on it.
its 23450

SPC Performance 23450 - SPC Performance Ball Joints
I got with SPC engineer and we did some research. the passport is built on the Pilot frame. so a lot of the same parts. The part # listed for the pilot camber kit is also the same for the Passport. So now the part is also listed under passport.
do some research for price. I ended up getting mine from summit racing for $136 ea. it has a 3 degree offset ea direction.
I now have them installed on my passport for the last 3 weeks, looks a lot better.
Personally i wouldn't get it from e-bay or amazon. put the part number in and google it. a lot of the companies selling it is getting them from SPC. and SPC is the original designer of the Ball joint 23450. They give you a installation video and required tools. i rented my tool from Advanced auto parts store.
2019 Honda Passport camber ball joint extension kit 23450 from SPC

Wouldn't this be covered under OEM warranty? Or do you feel like the dealership is pushing unnecessary rapairs to make more money?

 

[Geo]

I feel it should be covered under the OEM car warranty but the dealer said no, they wont fix it, i must have damaged it but when asked for them to show me the damage they actually said they don't see any. i do beleive this should be fixed by dealer because it was past the 1.8 max negative camber even after full adjustment to the cars camber stop.

 

[Geo]

Tuners/Honda Fanboys learned this back in the Prelude SH-AWD days:
Acura/honda SH-AWD/ivtm4 awd systems require at least one degree of rear end negative toe, which is provided by having negative camber on those rear wheels.
This is required, because the rear wheels are not always engaged/actively propelling the vehicle. They need to be toed-in initially, so that... as they are "pulled" by the vehicle going forward, they begin to toe out to become zero toe.
If you make the rear toe zero, when not in motion, the AWD system's metal gears will wear prematurely.

I may not have made myself clear enough in the 1st post but i did take it to the dealer because it was negative camber real bad to begin with. The dealer adjusted the camber to the max and it was still out of camber by 2.5 degrees and max negative camber is 1.8 degrees hence them saying it was past the limit and I had to pay for the kit and repair. Big argument ensued. After installing the kit it was driven to an Alignment repair facility that put it on there machine and brought it to correct specifications which is .5 and ensured the toe was correct also. they knew what they were doing, i didn't do the alignment myself.
thanks Geo