[stevenD]

I found some wheel that I like and some tires as well, would welcome any ones thoughts, since I have not seen anyone here with either of these set ups:

Black Rhino Wheels, size: 18" x 8" (can't decide which I like better, but they are both the same List Price ($319each)
1. Warlord
2. York
I'm also considering having them anodized a dark red color, I think the contrast would really pop, with the Dark Metal Gray PP.

Fitment | Black Rhino Wheels and Rims

Michelin CrossClimate SUV Tires, size: 245/60R18. They have an awesome tread pattern, are rated at 580 A A, and are the #1 tire out of 31 others. There is a video, lower down on the page where they tested them in various conditions and they excelled every time!

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=CrossClimate+SUV&partnum=46HR8CCPSUV&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

Again I welcome any thoughts...

FIVE MONTHS AFTER I CREATED THIS THREAD:

AFTERMARKET: 18" Black Rhino & Continental's

Finally pulled the trigger on them, the American Tire Depot made me an incredible offer, one that was just too good to pass up: The tires are Continental TerrainContact AT, 265R60/18, Tire Rack sells them for $215 ($860 for 4), I got them for $600 for all 4! They are supposedly 1" taller...

www.passportforums.com

 

[Wrascal]

I've looked at your two wheel choices and will mention - if cleanliness is important then imagine the effort to keep all those openings clean. If important then simple wheels would be preferable.

Michelins generally impress owners.

Lastly, Better dead than Red. Enjoy the ride!

 

[sprocket]

Here are the York wheels with 255/60-18, if that helps your decision any...

 

[stevenD]

Thanks Wrascal, and thanks sprocket, the Yorks look good, I would go for the gun metal gray ones to get them to stand out, but its great to see them on a PP (and in my same color too)...!

 

[1233]

If you must have Michelins, the Defender LTX is far superior and looks cool.

 

[1233]

I’ll add that I tried the old version of the cross and did not like them. I’ve had defenders on every car in my family since: 4 different CRVs, a Navigator, and an F150. Presently I have Blizzaks on my PP but will put defenders on eventually.

I’m just not a fan of touring tires in any way. I live in the snowbelt though. Also smooth touring tires will look silly on aggressive looking aftermarket rims.

Get defenders, trust me.

 

[stevenD]

Here are the York wheels with 255/60-18, if that helps your decision any...
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Hello sprocket, thanks for the photos' Yorks are on my list, I have the same corol PP as you, but was thinking about doing the Gun Metal colored Yorks, did you consider them or do you like your black ones?

Also, the Yorks offset is 20mm different than the OEM wheels, did you use any types of spacers?

Do they stick our much? Can you do a side view pic, so I can see how much they protrude?

Also, also: you got the Nitto Grapplers or Grappler 2's?

How do they ride and corner compared to the stock set up?

Thanks!

 

[sprocket]

Hello sprocket, thanks for the photos' Yorks are on my list, I have the same corol PP as you, but was thinking about doing the Gun Metal colored Yorks, did you consider them or do you like your black ones?

I didn't consider the gun metal color as our vehicles are already a similar color, I felt it needed contrast to stand out and accent the black trim.

Also, the Yorks offset is 20mm different than the OEM wheels, did you use any types of spacers?

No, the Yorks with a 35mm offset makes the wheels stick out further than the stock wheels, adding spacers would make the wheels stick out even further.

Do they stick our much? Can you do a side view pic, so I can see how much they protrude?

The mud flaps in the picture are from WeatherTech, they extend lower than the Honda's but they don't stick out as far, thus not covering the 1/2" extra the wheels stick out due to the wheel offset.

Also, also: you got the Nitto Grapplers or Grappler 2's?

I got the Nitto Terra Grappler in a 255/60-18, they don't make a G2 in that size.

How do they ride and corner compared to the stock set up?

I don't have much time on the stock wheels but I really didn't notice any difference except the Nitto's were a little noisier when you get on something like a tar & gravel road.

 

[stevenD]

Thanks sprocket, they don't stick out much at all!

Oh I forgot one more: Any rubbing or hitting for the tire/wheel changeover??

 

[sprocket]

Oh I forgot one more: Any rubbing or hitting for the tire/wheel changeover??

There is no rubbing, but there is no extra room either. In fact, if you put chains on, you will get rubbing at full wheel lock. The part of the chain that sits on the tread of the tire will hit against the back of the fender well at full lock. So with a 255/60-18 tire on a 18x8 wheel with 35mm offset you have around a 1/4" of clearance between tire tread and fender well, at full lock. I don't see how people are putting taller tires on without issues, especially if you are driving in winter conditions where you get ice/snow build up in the fenders wells.

 

[1233]

I keep trying to tell everyone to consider ice/mud/rock buildup too! Noone listens. I guess they can deal with torn up fender liners.

 

[stevenD]

If it is a real problem with the height people can always resort to the lift kits!

 

[1233]

If it is a real problem with the height people can always resort to the lift kits!

Its not a height issue at all actually and no lift kit, spacers, or anything except Flaring the fenders would help. If you look at pics the clearance issue is more on the sides, especially the front of the tire. Its just funny to me that people get so caught up in appearance that they dont think about performance and functionality. There is really no practical advantage to getting super oversized wheels/tires on a PP. Its truly just an ego/libido thing that seems to be playing out when people realize their PP isnt quite the same as a 4Runner or Jeep.

I based my choice on what the factory supported Baja (Ridgeline) and Rally (Passport) teams use: OEM Ridgeline 18s with 255/60/18 tires. If its good enough for a successful race team its good enough for me.

 

[John Bartz]

Here are the York wheels with 255/60-18, if that helps your decision any...
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Is your car stock height? (not lifted)? If so, then NO rubbing or clearance issues with your 255/60-18 tires? Re: TPMS sensors... did you move your OE sensors to the new wheels, or buy new sensors for the 18" Yorks? What actions were necessary to program the sensors to the car's TPMS? Thanks.

 

[Wrascal]

I too am one not to go outside of the engineers specs.
If you otherwise feel adventurist to proceed (outside of their recommendations) then realize any misfortunes should be at your expense.

 

[stevenD]

I too am one not to go outside of the engineers specs.
If you otherwise feel adventurist to proceed (outside of their recommendations) then realize any misfortunes should be at your expense.

Which sort of translates into: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"...

(lol)

 

[steve m]

I am thinking OEM Pilot 18" 45 mm offset rims with Cross Climate 245/60/R18. Same width as 245/50/R20 with 55 mm offset on the 20" wheels and only .7% (.2") increase in total diameter for the 245/60/R18. Dealer says any changes may result in false tire pressure alarm. Any issues with that? Any other thoughts

 

[1233]

Is your car stock height? (not lifted)? If so, then NO rubbing or clearance issues with your 255/60-18 tires? Re: TPMS sensors... did you move your OE sensors to the new wheels, or buy new sensors for the 18" Yorks? What actions were necessary to program the sensors to the car's TPMS? Thanks.

Stock ride height. No rubbing on 255/60/18. I bought new OEM sensors with the rims. I dont recommend transferring, but people do. The labor cost of removing tires just for the sensors makes it a wash so just get new ones. The tire shop installed them with the tires. No programming needed.

I am thinking OEM Pilot 18" 45 mm offset rims with Cross Climate 245/60/R18. Same width as 245/50/R20 with 55 mm offset on the 20" wheels and only .7% (.2") increase in total diameter for the 245/60/R18. Dealer says any changes may result in false tire pressure alarm. Any issues with that? Any other thoughts

You can safely go to 255/60/18 with no issues. Your dealer is wrong. The TPMS monitor is directly attached to the air valve and senses exact pressure. On a CRV for any of the smaller Hondas this would be an issue as they have a different tpms design. But not PP. I’m at 35 psi dead on all four and have been since I had them installed.

 

[John Bartz]

Stock ride height. No rubbing on 255/60/18. I bought new OEM sensors with the rims. I dont recommend transferring, but people do. The labor cost of removing tires just for the sensors makes it a wash so just get new ones. The tire shop installed them with the tires. No programming needed.

You can safely go to 255/60/18 with no issues. Your dealer is wrong. The TPMS monitor is directly attached to the air valve and senses exact pressure. On a CRV for any of the smaller Hondas this would be an issue as they have a different tpms design. But not PP. I’m at 35 psi dead on all four and have been since I had them installed.

Thanks for the good information. So, you bought new Honda OEM sensors, from your Honda dealer?

 

[stevenD]

There are at least two Honda Dealers selling parts at a discount online, do some searches, one is College Honda, the other is Bernardi:

Buy Discount OEM Honda Parts Online - Bernardi Parts Honda

www.bernardiparts.com