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#22 ·
penzance said:
We also own a 2020 Touring AWD, but it's not our primary vehicle so our total mileage driven is significantly lower than most.
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Above MM just popped up a week ago, and this will now be the FIFTH oil/filter change since purchased new in Feb. 2020. ALL 5 of these oil changes were a direct result of Honda's Maintenance Minder system . . . . in our case obviously MM determined services required were based on time, # of trips, trip duration . . . . but not strictly mileage.

We track all of our vehicles pretty well, and as you can see from the last couple pages of our Passport's book, MM seems to recommend oil/filter service about once a year, regardless of mileage. So far, it's popped at odo 3007 (10/6/20), 5627 (10/6/21), 7800 (8/26/22), 10340 (7/1/23), 14895 (5/26/24).
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So 3000-5000 mile oil changes do exist, per Honda's Maintenance Minder. :cool:
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I feel like we must be related; my family all keep these kind of records for all of our machinery. It has always paid off. I also have a 2020 Passport with ~29k on the odometer. Did you replace the battery at 9k? I am thinking mine is getting weaker and weaker and may need to replace it before it fails and leaves me stranded.
BTW, if you are interested in a digital data tracking program there is one that is called "Road Trip", that works very well. It is by darrensoft.ca which I found on the Apple APS store. It's free for basic, and a small amount if you want whistles and bells-Ive used basic for 8+ years and found it fine. [I have no connection to this software or its maker, just passing along information]
 
#23 ·
HarveyW said:
If you go to Honda's My Garage site and register your vehicle you will not only find everything that the dealer has done to the vehicle by you can input any service/work you do to your vehicle or that was done by an independent mechanic. Keeps everything all in one place for the dealer and any future buyer.
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Thank you for this information, I did not know about it. I will check it out.
 
#24 ·
Deweykd said:
I own a 2020 Passport Touring edition purchased new, now with 35,200 miles on it. I had the dealership service the vehicle since purchased. My last service was for multiple items at 32,400 miles in November 2023 which included an oil change and filter. I now have an indicator showing I am past due in miles for an oil change of almost 1000 miles. Called the dealer and of course they state bring it in. This seems confusing since it is synthetic oil and I have only driven over 3000.00. The oil levels appear normal. My question is this maintenance reminder by time or mileage is my
question. Any feedback is appreciated.
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If you need to reset oil minder , do the following


Step 1:
Turn the ignition to run (one click before starting the engine).Step 2:
Press the Select/Reset button located on either your steering wheel or as a knob on your dash. Depending on your model, either scroll through or press the knob repeatedly until “Engine Oil Life” or “Engine Oil Indicator %” is displayed.Step 3:
Press and hold the Select/Reset button for 10 seconds. The Engine Oil Indicator will begin to blink.Step 4:
If your display reads “Engine Oil Life”, select the Reset mode by pressing the Info button on the steering wheel. Then press the Select/Reset button to return your oil life to 100%.
 
#25 ·
jan said:
Car oil should be change at every 3k-5k. No such thing as a 10k crap. if you drive your car without abusing it, then change it at 5k, if your heavy footed and drive it like you speeding, change it at 3k-5k. Oil creates sludge. If you want your car to last you 200k+. Change your oils.
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I don't get it about changing oil so often. I just purchased a 2019 Passport EXL model from the Honda dealer this month with 27K miles. I don't plan on changing my oil but once a year. I will do it myself as I have done for the last 25 years. I have always used Mobile 1 since the first oil change with Mobile one filter. I have a 2000 Chevy Suburban with 226,000 that I just gave to my son and I changed the oil once a year. Mobile one is designed to last 15,000 - 20,000 miles depending on what you buy. I had Zero issues with my suburban engine.
Also, I just sold my 2002 Chey Avalanche truck with 202,000 miles and Zero engine issues, also used Mobile One oil with the Mobile One oil filter. It is a waste of resources and money to change a synthetic oil so often. It is designed to last and doesn't get the viscosity break down that regular oil gets from heat.
 
#27 ·
ljpcosta said:
I don't get it about changing oil so often. I just purchased a 2019 Passport EXL model from the Honda dealer this month with 27K miles. I don't plan on changing my oil but once a year. I will do it myself as I have done for the last 25 years. I have always used Mobile 1 since the first oil change with Mobile one filter. I have a 2000 Chevy Suburban with 226,000 that I just gave to my son and I changed the oil once a year. Mobile one is designed to last 15,000 - 20,000 miles depending on what you buy. I had Zero issues with my suburban engine.
Also, I just sold my 2002 Chey Avalanche truck with 202,000 miles and Zero engine issues, also used Mobile One oil with the Mobile One oil filter. It is a waste of resources and money to change a synthetic oil so often. It is designed to last and doesn't get the viscosity break down that regular oil gets from heat.
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That was back when Chevy built decent engines. You can't compare them to the garbage they build today. Good luck getting that kind of mileage with your so-called 10K-15K OCI's on an Ecotech or LS with ACM...not going to happen.
 
#29 · (Edited)
Something to consider on this silly "if you don't agree with me... you are just simply wrong!" argument:
Newer cars (past 10-15 years) are now using engine oil not only as a lubricant, but also as hydraulic fluid to control such things as variable valve timing and timing advancement systems and the cooling processors on the nuclear reactors and flux capacitors and stuff. But seriously.... the oil passages to the timing advancement gears on the cams are very itty-bitty and can clog up with sludge easily. It is not like Grandpa's old 1973 "deuce and a quarter" that all that you had to worry about was slippery oil. The lubricating properties of modern synthetic oils do, in fact, allow increased change mileage. However, the additive packages, even tho much improved, still tend to have issues with fighting sludge. And it can/will build if left in use too long. Once these tiny oil control passages get sludged and clogged up, the big head-achs and wallet drainage begins. My point is high mileage oil may stay nice and slippery, but it can still sludge things up if left too long. There is a ton of evidence and videos to support this.

Simply put, if you get a warm-fuzzy from changing the oil after every "trip to the grocery store" as Chef joked.... than do it. That is still better than going 20K miles on ANY oil and suffering the cost and waste of a perfectly good engine. The truth (as always) is somewhere in the middle. We all have our opinions and suggestions.... and fortunately, we don't have to pay for each of our fellow forum member's mistakes. May we all have the longevity results we wish for.

Happy Holidays to all of you nice folks!
 
#31 ·
23Elite said:
LS with ACM...not going to happen.
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Just an informational note for anyone who knows someone with one of these, my ex girlfriend's 2008 5.8 vortec LS had a lifter stick and I used a $40 tool sold by a youtuber mechanic named Crazed Performance Repair to unstick it without removing the heads, and he links information to where you can send your ECU to a guy in Montana that disables it, but that won't flag anything in the ECU for smog purposes in California. It saved her (me) thousands of dollars, as well as weeks of downtime for a local repair, or a new car that she couldn't afford as a nursing student. After unsticking the lifter, I plugged the VLOM with a plug he machines himself, to mechanically disable the ACM as well. He included a lovely pocket-sized color-printed copy of the US Constitution with my order as well, and a letter of gratitude. Couldn't recommend his products and customer service enough.
 
#32 ·
penzance said:
We also own a 2020 Touring AWD, but it's not our primary vehicle so our total mileage driven is significantly lower than most.
View attachment 21321

Above MM just popped up a week ago, and this will now be the FIFTH oil/filter change since purchased new in Feb. 2020. ALL 5 of these oil changes were a direct result of Honda's Maintenance Minder system . . . . in our case obviously MM determined services required were based on time, # of trips, trip duration . . . . but not strictly mileage.

We track all of our vehicles pretty well, and as you can see from the last couple pages of our Passport's book, MM seems to recommend oil/filter service about once a year, regardless of mileage. So far, it's popped at odo 3007 (10/6/20), 5627 (10/6/21), 7800 (8/26/22), 10340 (7/1/23), 14895 (5/26/24).
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So 3000-5000 mile oil changes do exist, per Honda's Maintenance Minder. :cool:
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That's a very impressive log!
 
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